quadbikeWhat a Bogus report. The current LCA MMR is based on the Elta E/M 2032 which is allowed for export.
quadbikeThanks for video quadbike 🙂 But for daily conditions i still support one piece canopy because of its free view angle:rolleyes:
Yes I like the single piece canopy as well. Just because it looks cool :diablo:
quadbikeI don’t think India has any plans to export the Tejas, HAL will struggle to even meet the IAF & IN demands. So flying it to Europe will be a waste of time and money. A practical problem is the current Tejas version do not have a IFR probe so it will be impossible for it to get to Europe in its own power.
quadbikeI don’t understand why India invests that much in foreign producers. MRCA, PAKFA, MKI. All that money should have gone to Indian firms. Surely they would have not entered the top but neither did China develop J20 with a big bang. After J7, J10/Fc1 it went to J10B and J20. I think India has the economic power to achieve it. Somehow it is distracted by big deals that take long time and are foreign. LCA MK2 is the second chance to get it right. The strange thing I see is that the neighbour has a new plane with Russian engine and India has plane with US engine. Strange swap of the engines.
China has several things going in its favour in terms of developing aricraft.
1. More money and support for R & D programmes.
2. Western Sanctions, Necessity is really the mother of invention.
3. Relaxed IPR laws and sometimes complete disregard for IP rights. National secuirty considered above such laws.
4. Great Emphasis and Success in Espionage.
5. The appreciation and support shown by PLAAF, even PAF is the same compare that to the IAFs attitude towards the LCA.
6. Several design houses/production facilities competing each other for projects, competiton usually makes the product better and cheaper.
7. Leaders and military establishment with long-term vision.
How long has India been independent? If there was a problem, why has it not been addressed many, many decades later?
I don’t mean to be offensive but I have had experience of dealing with several countries (not India) where the approach towards doing what has been agreed and doing it on time is… what shall I say… relaxed.
[OT]Yes that indeed is our problem. But you have to see apart from a bright spec here and therre (usually small countries) the former British colonies who got independence in the last century still have similar problems, I attribute part of it to lack of a good exit strategy. In India’s case the political leadership, system of government and consitution were changed but the legal, land revenue and several other systems remain the same. Police still misuse archaic British laws which Britian got rid of decades ago.[/OT]
quadbikeIn this case BAe was clearly to blame. The problem was not with the parts not being delivered on time but with the quality and compatibility of parts. It was actually a dispute between HAL a DPSU and BAe i doubt buraeucracy was involved.
As soon as the Indian MoD threatend to cancel the follown on orders and issued an RFI for trainers, BAe cleaned up their act, and hence they got the follow on orders.
As for the Indian bureaucracy being a joke, I agree with you but its an old joke which the Brits created and even after successifve governments the ‘Babus’ remain the same.
quadbikeRadar and EODAS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPKw3RksCcI
around 4:54-55 he says abt the ability to see thru floor. 🙂
quadbikeMay be not under visible light, but in the case of the F 35 the HMD will show you whats directly under your seat even. The point is not losing track of enemy fighters who are blindspotted by the Canopt frame and the F 35 HMD can do that as well.
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quadbikeWell, it sound like the Indian Government and Air Force disagree with your accessment.
The most positive thing about the way the MRCA contest is being run is that the IAF or the Government of India has not endorsed any fighter before the official results are out. Compare that with Brazil with Lula talking about Rafale all the time.
If you followed on from the first MRCA/IAF threads you can see that every one of the six fighters competing were at one time or the other declared as favourites by the media citing annonymus IAF officers or leaks from the MoD.
The fact is that like us, the media don’t have a clue and their guesses are at times worse than ours.
You believe the Super Hornet will win, I think the Gripen or the Viper will and there are others who have their bets on the Typhoon and Rafale.
AFAIK even the MIG could surprise you :p
quadbikeI thought India was having a number of problems with it’s “brand new” Hawk Trainers from the UK????
Yes but the problems are related to the parts supplied BAE and not the British government. With USA the companies are much more efficient at delivering systems, see the C 130 J delivered ahead of schedule. The issue with U.S is with regards to transfer of key technologies.
With the U.K, France, Russia and a host of other countries once the executive branch of their government is convinced everything is fine, in the case of the U.S.A every decision has to be reviewed by the congress and a few powerful congressmen or senators with different agendas can be a problem. Good system for Americans not so for those who want ToT from them.
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quadbikeI think these are additional orders. I say it because when the first 42 deal was mentioned it was touted as a direct purchase from Russia, people had a go at the increased price of the MKIs as well. This order is from HAl, so we may indeed be looking at 310 MKIs ?
quadbikeThe UK has had an exemplery record at providing India with Arms. The only times we had problems with them was when Americans refused parts like for the Seakings. As for the U.S the relationship between India and the U.S are going to be stable for a very long time, atleast that is what everyone in the establishment thinks. It would not make sense to go for a U.S engine on the LCA otherwise.
France and UK have supported weapons they delivered to India even during U.S embargos. And a UN embargo against India is fanciful as long as Russia has a veto in the UNSC, so there is no need to worry on that front.
As for the Gripen NGs capabilities the current Gripen C/D has a good record against F 16 block 50s in training and the NG is only going to add to that. You have to remember that it is far better to give the pilots more flying hours on a single engined platform than having all the twin engined white elephants eating up your budget on procurement and operational costs.
SAABs two flaws are lack of a homebuilt powerplant and lack of political clout, they can still be its undoing especially the latter, but if its not a political battle SAAB should win the contest.
quadbikeOther countries — notably Pakistan, Brazil and Greece — too operate AWACS but at a much lower end of the scale in terms of capability.
The Erieye is really potent, I think they have it wrong.
quadbikeYes, that sounds like an issue, i am afraid the InAF with its old planes (reported to be very maintenance intensive) will fall in love with the Gripen NG (reported to be very easy to maintain and low infrastructure needed for movement to forward bases), which might have some effect on the Tejas Mk-II orders.
A rafale or a superhornet does add a lot to the strike capability of the InAF, eventually a good return on investment.
All the MRCA candidates bar the MIG will be a revelation for the IAF interms of availability and ease of maintenance, why do you think the IAF loves the Mirage. The twin seater Su30MKI is a potent strike platform, with indigenous LGBs and Nirbhay coming up and Brahmos capability on 40 odd airframes, it can cut it with the best strikers.
The Offset part is with the ministry of defence i think, InAF can only define what it needs, run the tests and report back on the contestants performance.(still a dominant position in final decision)
In the current corruption season, one would think the congress will play it safe and the contract would go for the L1 which meets all IAF requirements. Awarding the contract to the Eurofighter which is perhaps the most expensive of all the fighters will no doubt incur the wrath of the CAG.
, air policing the peaceful south, right, i think the reason is that it needs two years to read FOC, otherwise it outperforms the multiple MiG-21 squadrons.
Yes and I hope they put some fighters in Trivandrum as well. HQ of southern air command and all still no fighters and no air defense assets. 🙁
quadbikeTrue and even in the Su 30 MKI western/isreali systems are gradually being replaced by Indian systems, for example the MFDs, EW suite including jammers etc.
quadbikeMostly Indian systems I believe. The Astra Missiles, Mission computers, Radar Processors, RWR and EW suite will possibly be Indian. The HMDS too may be Indian depends on whether the Russians will have a superior alternative.
I wonder if the FGFA will have a built in targeting pod like that of the F 35 if an external pod need to be carried it will probably be Litening G4. I also expect western and Indian A2G LGBs and GPS guided bombs.
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