Please dont try and fool us into believing PAF and JF-17 are never mentioned by senior IAF people.
IAF chief of the time did have good comments about the JF 17. I gave you February 2009 DTI
Actually taking out a high profile target will be rather easy for the IAF provided its numerical and technological superiority. There will be a few loses but that is expected. Its you who are day dreaming, if you say all IAF aircraft crossing the LOC will be shot down.
As for the SAAB 2000, SU 30 MKIs armed with KH 31 ARMs would severly reduce its options.
As for Insiq’s comments on Kargil, Kargil was a Siachen style plot by Pakistan to gain control of the area which failed miserably, Pakistan did not even get support from its closest allies on the issue.
As for India strategic victories in the region you don’t have to look further than Operation Meghdoot. Its frankly nauseating to see people boasting after losing every single conflict they fought.
EXCLUSIVE: India’s Deepak Basic Trainers To Get Ballistic Recovery System
Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) wants to give its troubled HPT-32 Deepak basic propeller trainer aircraft a ballistic recovery system (BRS) — a capability that principally involves a heavy-duty parachute that deploys during an emergency (spins, stalls, etc) and lowers the entire aircraft to the ground with the intention of saving the lives of the crew and limiting mechanical damage to the plane. HAL has received clearance from the Indian Air Force to fit approximately 120 HPT-32s in service — but grounded since August 2009 after a fatal crash — with a BRS developed specifically for the aircraft type. HAL has floated a tender for the system, and is understood to have already begun discussions with American firm BRS Aerospace, which appears to have pioneered the technology for several light aircraft including the Cirrus series and the light Cessnas.
HAL’s tender stipulates that the BRS should be able to recover the HPT-32 in an emergency situation during any phase of its flight envelope including aerobatics. And on deploying, the system should be capable of lowering the aircraft with a rate of descent at touch down not exceeding 8.5 m/sec, and of course, without causing any injury to the crew. The minimum height of deployment for safe recovery of the aircraft has been put at 100-metres AGL or less.
F 16 Sales to Taiwan Likely
Dogfighting over the Taiwan Strait
For national-security dorks who like to read the Defense Department’s 36(b) arms sale notifications, watching the back-and-forth over weapons sales to Taiwan is pure entertainment. It’s partly a question of political spin, but it’s also an interesting look at how the Pentagon sizes up the military balance between China and Taiwan.
Back in January, the Defense Intelligence Agency issued a stark assessment of Taiwan’s air power: Without a serious upgrade, the report said, Taiwan’s air defenses would not be able to fight off an attack by China. The Pentagon report — which was sent to Congress in January, but only became public last month — noted the growing obsolescence of Taiwan’s fighter inventory, which includes F-5 Tigers, Mirage 2000-5s and some older F-16A/Bs. “Taiwan recognizes that it needs a sustainable replacement for obsolete and problematic airframes,” the unclassified version of the report said.
That came as welcome news to Taiwan, which has been lobbying to buy more advanced F-16s, the F-16C/D model, from the United States. (China, predictably, is opposed to the plan.)
But here’s the catch: The F-16 production line is eventually going to shut down as the United States and its allies switch to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Now members of Congress are now stepping up pressure on the administration to sell the aircraft, in part to keep a production line in Fort Worth, Texas, open.
And that proves the old adage: All politics is local, even when we’re talking about the Taiwan Strait. In a floor statement this week, Sen. Jon Cornyn of Texas appealed for the sale to go through. The reason? Constituent jobs.
“Taiwan needs these F-16 C/D aircraft now,” he said. “… If hard orders are not received for Taiwan’s F-16s this year, the U.S. production line will likely be forced to start shutting down. Once the line begins closing, personnel will be shifted to other programs, inventory orders will be cancelled, and machine tools will be decommissioned. When the F-16 line eventually goes ‘cold,’ it is not realistic to expect that it would be restarted.
Super Hornets ready for first mission
THE crews responsible for flying the new Super Hornets to RAAF Base Amberley are on schedule to complete their historic mission.
The Air Force is acquiring 24 Super Hornets which will progressively arrive at the base this year and next to replace the F-111.
Group Captain Steve Roberton, officer in charge of the Super Hornet Wing, said he had been in California since mid-February.
He said about 60 men and women from Amberley were there readying the F/A-18 Super Hornets for the flight home.
Grp Capt Roberton said he was there to fly the latest Rhino model and oversee preparations by No 1 Squadron for the flight to Australia.
“I flew the aircraft for several months last year, completing my conversion to the new jet, the F/A-18F,” Grp Capt Roberton said.
“I have a couple of thousand hours experience in the Classic Hornet F/A-18A aircraft, so the conversion to the new aircraft was relatively straightforward.”
He said the crew had conducted acceptance test flying of the new jets and getting them ready for the ferry flight home.
The acceptance test flying involved checking every system on the aircraft, both on the ground and in the air.
“It is the ultimate test drive, whereby we not only fly them, but check out the emergency and back-up systems also,” he said.
“It is the culmination of a very comprehensive process for Defence before we take ownership. From this point onwards, any maintenance problems are our responsibility.”
They were in the final phases of acceptance flying and planned to have the first formation of Rhino Super Hornets on the Amberley tarmac by the end of March.
“The specific timing and arrival details will be finalised in the coming days,” he said.
Grp Capt Roberton said he was the first foreigner to fly in the new Block II Rhino with all the modern avionics back in January 2007.
Since then, he had flown about 60 hours in the new jets in all roles: air-to-air, precision strike and using the advanced radar and communication sensors.
As with any project of its size, he said the crews in California had their share of challenges, but “nothing has been insurmountable”.
“As we expected, we needed to refine our maintenance systems in real time, and our advance planning has allowed for that,” he said.
“We understand that in a complex program like this one, certain matters aren’t apparent until we get the jet in the air. That is why we have a specially selected team of professional maintenance, support and aircrew personnel.”
Canada needs to update its aging fleet of CF-18s, but when will Ottawa get around to it?
Think of a paper clip, suggests retired Lieutenant-Colonel Billy Allen. Just as you can only bend one so many times before it breaks, you can only push an aircraft beyond the speed of sound so many times before some crucial part gives out on you.
“You can take a handful of paper clips and they’re all going to break at about 16 bends,” said Lt. Col. Allen, an asscociate professor at the Royal Military College and an expert on Canada’s past aircraft acquisitions.
The air force’s frontline fleet of CF-18 fighter-bombers is on its 15th bend; just 80 remain flyable from the original 138 delivered during the 1980s, and yet Canada and Japan remain the only G7 countries not to have designated successors to their primary fighters of the 1970s/1980s generation. The Harper government, Industry Canada and the Department of National Defence have maintained a stealthy uncommunicativeness about the selection process, let alone the choice of aircraft. Meanwhile, a long tarry by Ottawa could mean the last, tired Hornet will not be able to fly off into the sunset around 2020 as planned.
“We’re hoping that [a decision is] getting close. Their current timeline to actually buy the airplane [leads to] 2016 deliveries, which would mean you’d have to place an order by 2014 and have a down payment in 2013,” said Tom Burbage, executive vice-president for F-35 Program Integration at Lockheed Martin, maker of the presumptive front-runner.
“The next formal decision point, in my understanding, is a Cabinet endorsement of the candidate replacement for the F-18. Hopefully it’ll be this year. It’s hard to predict the Canadian process.”
The hazard for the Harper government lies in announcing a defence program with a final cost likely to land in the range of $10-billion. Choosing a fighter to patrol Canada’s skies and fulfill its NATO obligations in the coming decades entails making probably the largest military acquisition in Canadian history.
Meanwhile, last week’s federal budget included a plan to trim $2.5-billion from the defence budget over the next five years. It is not known what effect the austerity plan will have on the fighter replacement program.
Last fall, air force officers told Canwest News Service that they worried any competition to proceed on the replacement for the CF-18 would be delayed by a federal election, or at least threats of a federal election. No government wants to announce a multi-billion project to buy new fighter jets when the public is focused on health care, unemployment and other concerns, they said.
Since Canada’s 2002 investment of US$160-million in the U.S.-British program, Lockheed Martin’s Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) or F-35 Lightning II, has been the leading candidate. The many-talented stealth warplane is being developed to serve as NATO’s air backbone for decades to come.
Canada’s JSF commitment was simply the ante; going all-in and buying the F-35 would give the Canadian air force its first stealth aircraft. It boasts a radar signature the size of a golf ball.
In some respects the F-35 can be regarded as a shrunken, exportable version of the dominating F-22 Raptor, the high-performance U.S. stealth fighter that costs at least US$140-million per unit — so expensive that President Barack Obama thought even the United States could not afford any more of them, and capped the purchase at 187 units.
“If you were to ask me, ‘Will the F-35 be the world’s best multi-mission aircraft?’ I have no doubt that that will be the case,” said Baker Spring, a research fellow in security policy at the Washington-based Heritage Foundation. However, Mr. Spring said, by being jack of all trades the F-35 may not be master of any.
Last November, Australia announced a A$16-billion ($14.9-billion) contract for 100 Joint Strike Fighters, implying a price tag that approaches $10-billion for a Canadian fleet of 65.
(A staffer in Defence Minister Peter MacKay’s office told the Post that Canada will procure 65 new fighters. That’s down from the 80 CF-18s now operating; 80 was also the number of replacements quoted when Canadian Forces created an office to work on the replacement in 2007.)
Should the Harper government decide to purchase the JSF, it could find itself in a similar position to Australia’s Labour administration, which has been dogged in Parliament and the press with criticism that the fighter program is late, over budget and will result in a slow, mediocre airplane. Some have questioned whether the F-35, with its modest maximum speed of Mach 1.6, would be capable of defending Australian airspace against advanced Russian or Chinese weaponry. The question is a pertinent one for a Harper government keen to be regarded as defenders of Canada’s sovereignty over the Arctic.
Last week, the Pentagon told Congress its estimates for the massive American order of 2,400 F-35s had climbed 50% higher than a 2002 estimate, triggering an automatic review under U.S. legislation.
“The JSF program has fallen short on performance over the past several years,” Ashton Carter, undersecretary of defense for acquisition, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. The average price per airplane is now expected to range from US$80-million to US$95-million in 2002 dollars.
As for talk of the program dragging behind schedule, Lockheed Martin’s Tom Burbage said the F-35 was at worst 13 months delayed, and the first aircraft will be delivered to customers on time.
Amid the controversy, aerospace industry sources said last year that a plan to sole source a Canadian purchase of the JSF — that is, award a contract to Lockheed Martin without formally entertaining competing proposals — is no longer on the table.
Still, a decision remains out of visual range.
Competitors to the JSF on the radar include Boeing, maker of the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet, an advanced cousin to the CF-18, and the Eurofighter consortium, which builds the high-performance, European-made Typhoon. Both manufacturers are growing impatient for Ottawa to announce a competition between bidders, or even just to spell out its requirements for a new fighter. The Swedish Saab Gripen, already in service in a few small countries, is also reportedly under consideration.
The potential competitors want the Department of National Defence to pit the aircraft programs against each other for the contract, as was done during the late 1970s when Canada last chose a fighter.
In the absence of any published requirements from Ottawa spelling out what its new fighter must be able to do, potential contractors can only refer to the Canada First Defence Strategy, a set of military modernization goals announced by Stephen Harper in 2008.
“What Boeing is really communicating in Canada is they really ought to go to a competition for the next-generation fighter. Only in a competition will they get all the real facts and data and the real capabilities of the aircraft,” said Mike Gibbons, Super Hornet program manager for Boeing, in a recent interview.
There is evidence that the Eurofighter Typhoon seems to be in the running. The Post has learned that Canadian officials visited the United Kingdom during the past week to take a closer look at the program. Sources with knowledge of the fighter-selection process said an Industry Canada delegation spoke with BAE Systems, one of the four members of the European consortium that builds the aircraft, about potential benefits to the Canadian aerospace industry should National Defence choose the Typhoon.
Ottawa is not just being asked to choose between different airplanes, it must also endorse a major industrial effort to build and maintain them. Critics often regard fighter planes as flying pork barrels, with plenty of contracts for parts and maintenance to spread around in the purchasing country.
Unlike its rivals, the JSF program comes packaged with no “offsets,” or guarantees for the amount of industrial activity for customers. Instead, it offers subcontractors in those countries access to a common, competitive marketplace for parts and maintenance contracts. With perhaps 3,500 JSFs to be manufactured for various countries in the years to come, the sky is the limit in terms of potential benefits to Canada’s aerospace industry – but only if it signs on to buy F-35s.
“We really need to make a decision very quickly. The worst situation would be to not make a decision,” said Claude Lajeunesse, president of the Aerospace Industries Association of Canada, which has urged the Harper government to find a fighter replacement soon. “You’re talking billions of dollars.”
Whatever National Defence’s plan, continuing to fly the CF-18 much beyond 2020 is not an option, said the RMC’s Lt.-Col. Allen. Notwithstanding a $2.6-billion modernization program wrapping up this spring, the fleet is scheduled to be retired starting in 2017. By that time some of the airframes will be 35 years old. Dozens of CF-18s have already been cannibalized for parts.
“The ones that are flying have had their hip replacements,” Lt.-Col. Allen said.
The Canadian Forces’ 80 remaining CF-18s have served the country well since first being delivered in 1982. Said the retired colonel, “History has shown that Canada’s choice was very wise.”
Nukes are ‘weapons of peace’: Kakodkar
Nuclear weapons are ‘weapons of peace’ which act as a deterrent, says former Chairman of Atomic Energy Commission Anil Kakodkar.
When India tested its nuclear bombs in 1974 and 1998, sanctions were imposed by many countries but for “us it became a real opportunity and our research and development today has reached a robust level” in some of the technologies, Kakodkar said at a function yesterday.
“The philosophical aspect of nuclear weapons can be peaceful and they act as a deterrent. So, I call them weapons of peace,” he said replying to questions posed by eminent science writer Bal Phondke and Dr A P Thatte, President of Vijnan Bharati, an NGO dedicated to science.
Kakodkar said Pokhran II in 1998 was “a technological and management challenge for me as a director of Bhabha Atomic Research Centre and it was a difficult period for my family as well as my office”. He did not elaborate. Replying to a question on spent fuel, he said, “Spent fuel is reprocessed and reused because then they become environment-friendly.”
The top nuclear scientist said the nuclear power sector had been unable to reach the projected generation capacity in the last several years because of the sanctions imposed. When Phondke and Thatte asked Kakodkar whether he had any difficulty during higher studies in English medium after having been educated in Hindi medium and about the use of mother tongue in studying science, the former AEC chief said, “the concepts can be understood clearly in one’s language and transition from mother tongue to English should not be a problem”.
I know you are being sarcastic…but do you know what aircraft the IAF wants to use to drop these bombs?…I don’t think they have a dedicated bomber fleet
I think the Jaguars or MKI can carry these.
Yeah, suspected as much. Tragically for you both that is the basis for your arguments and opinions. You just tried to accuse a senior PAF officer of sayingdetrimental things about LCA without knowledge of the facts when both of you (probably after searching Google in a panic!) have no evidence to support your claims.
This is embaressing isit not? Especially when on this very thread a few posts ago I was asked for a link about my claims regarding IAF loding a protest to USAF and put up my evidence immediately…
I cannot exactly give you links regarding the PAF chiefs comments on LCA however the IAF chief talked about the JF 17 in the February 2009 issue of Defense Technology International.
I hope abhi will give you the links to the PAF chiefs comments on LCA.
After Failure, AAD Interceptor Re-Test In June
India’s endo-atmospheric interceptor missile, the Advanced Air Defence (AAD) weapon will be tested in a week-long window in the first half of June, according to sources. Data from the Integrated Test Range (ITR) is still being analysed by scientists from the programme. A serious malfunction of onboard flight control systems is likely to have caused the modified Prithvi to dive out of the sky and smash into the Bay of Bengal without attaining its programmed altitude before curving back for an interception. Scientists say they’ve figured out what went wrong and have corrected it.
About cluster bombs – many countries have agreed not to use them because they persist and kill people after any military confrontation is over. I take it that India is not thinking of going down that route.
This is very true, but then so does nukes.
One thing that is good about newer cluster bombs like this is an increased level of accuracy where the seeker locks on and destroys specific target, there by eliminating many of the issues with older cluster munitions.
As if China will invade with huge number of tanks… All driving down the Himalaya just beating the 8000+m mountains. And how asymetric is the relation to Pakistan. Just looking at the numbers I would conclude that Pakistan should get them. What do you think will happen if you brake through the tanklines of a nuclear opponent? Exactly that is what lacks in these “funny” cartoons or simulations. Zero depth.
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China is already building highways to connect with Pakistan, which would mean in a future war it could aid Pakistan rather very easily.
If you cared to listen to the video it says preventing a Pakistani tank attack not invading Pakistan :rolleyes:
And do you have a link to this?
Ask Abhimanyu he said it, I was just explaining to Insiq what Abhi said. 🙂
Now I know my country is safe , Thanks to CBU-105
Against much bigger combined forces of China and Pakistan our best bet will be on such smart and asymmetric weapons.