According to the above Graphic the F 22’s cruise speed is 1.5 Mach without ab. We know in reality its 1.7.

The .95 Cruise speed without AB of the F 35 is only the initial estimate. There is every chance that it will be over mach 1.0 in reality.

SNECMA M53 P2 – dry thrust rating of 62,3 kN, afterburner thrust 95 kN

My mistake the source i looked at did not have the Ab thrust just the dry one 🙁

All the money spent on that conference would be enough to to move many villages under threat from rising sea levels out of danger. In fact, the landing fees at Kastrup for all those aircraft would feed those villagers for a couple of months.:mad:

My Point Exactly. Help people migrate further inland, get more areas under cultivation, invest on ingenious concepts like floating cities or sky scrapper cities, or even under water cities.

All this money we are going to invest in climate change will go into the pockets of the climate opportunists and by the time we realize the thing cannot be prevented there will not be enough time left to save lives.

Who are you to make up definitions here?

Supercruise, as stated by various military personnel, is SUPERSONIC CRUISING.

You are right. That may well be supercruising in the true sense of the world.

Its like some folks would consider going at 100 mph really fast, some would only consider 200 mph fast.

Lockheed/USAF considers Mach 1.5+ as Super Cruise (see the post by obligatory from code one for example) newer F 16s can also do supersonic flight without Afterburner (this was also acknowledged by a usaf pilot when asked about F 16 to India) that however is not considered ‘Super Cruise’ by Lockheed/USAF. The
F 35 may well supercruise like your Gripen or Rafale but it is unlikely to be anywhere near the raptor, hence the lack of advertisement on that feature.

The other reason is that Lockheed was really trying to sell more raptors to the USAF and the last thing they would need is to use the term Super Cruise associated with the F 35. :rolleyes: