You are attributing some one else’s comments on me. But there is always the ignore button. As for me I am not going to change my opinions or posting habits for you.
Stealth shaping i guess less detectable to subs…..
Misraji you have been taking repeated swipes at me in many a thread accusing me of this and that. Seems to me that you are obsessed with me, It is rather pitiful that none of the establishment has taken your POV in this matter and none will in the near future.
If you want to discuss reply to what i posted and not things which aren’t any of you business.
I don’t think if I am planning a War, I would take a gamble on my enemy’s TN warhead not going off. No sane government will, and for all its issues communist China is not Stalinist Russia.
Project 28 corvettes: India to tender for composite technology for superstructure
The Indian Navy’s prestigious Project 28, the programme to build four of the world’s stealthiest anti-submarine corvettes, is on track to become even more cutting edge. By the end of this month, three international shipbuilders will be bidding to provide Kolkata-based Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) with the technology to build a major part of the corvettes — the entire superstructure — with lightweight composites.
By making the superstructure, which is the upper part of the ship that rests on the hull, of lighter composite material, the 2500-tonne warships will become lighter, stealthier and far more stable in the water. Already acclaimed as world-class warships, composite superstructures will make them amongst the most effective submarine hunters in any of the world’s navies.
Business Standard has learned that the Ministry of Defence (MoD) will shortly issue tenders to three shipbuilders with extensive experience in fabricating composites. Kockums of Sweden, a subsidiary of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS), which builds the world’s stealthiest warships, the 650-tonne Visby class corvettes, is a leading contender; also in the fray are Greek shipbuilder, Intermarine; and Korea’s Kangnam Corporation.
With composite materials increasingly crucial to warships, this lucrative tender could open the door for broader partnership with Indian defence shipyards. The three companies are maintaining a discrete silence for now, but an aide to the spokesperson of TKMS admitted, “India is an interesting market for TKMS at the moment because of the serious attention that the Government of India is giving to the technical future of the Indian Navy.”
The first two corvettes of Project 28, which are nearing completion, have already been built with conventional steel superstructures. Subsequent corvettes, i.e. the third ship onwards, can have composite superstructures. The Chairman and Managing Director of GRSE, Rear Admiral KC Sekhar told Business Standard during a visit to GRSE in August that, “Composite materials technology can only be incorporated for the third and fourth ships of Project 28. The first corvette is already 90% completed. 80% of the superstructure is ready for the second corvette.”
All the high technology going into Project 28 is boosting costs; GRSE and the MoD are locked in negotiations to finalise a price for the corvettes. Since 2003, when the order was placed, GRSE has worked on Project 28 based on nothing more than a Letter of Intent from the MoD. The cost mentioned in that LoI was derived from the cost of the earlier Project 25A, for previous generation Kora class corvettes.
But now, that cost has ballooned, partly because of repeated changes that the navy has demanded in order to keep Project 28 at the cutting edge of stealth technology. The LoI’s Rs 2800 crore for the four ships of Project 28 (i.e. Rs 700 crores per corvette), has swelled to Rs 7000 crores (Rs 1750 crore per corvette). And, since the cost of the first ship of Project 28 was to determine the real cost of Project 28, the MoD has little option but to pay that amount.
But Business Standard has learned that the MoD-GRSE negotiations could soon have a happy ending. Although the order was placed in 2003, the MoD is likely to agree to a “commencement of production” date of March 2006, to compensate for the delays caused by repeated changes in specifications. Since the first Project 28 corvette is likely to roll out in 2012, that will amount to a notional build period of 6 years, in line with the time that most foreign shipyards take to produce the first ship of a class. Subsequent ships, however, are expected to be churned out much faster.
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2009/12/project-28-corvettes-india-issuing.html
Central is the Federal government in India. We are Quasi-Federal a bit different from Americans so we call everything Centre, Central instead of Federal.
CBI – FBI etc.
I beg to differ. Chidambram is just a Tax Ogre. If you already don’t know that he has been moved to Home because of his bad performance in Finance.
He was moved to Home because we had an inefficient Home Minister. It was part of the shake up after Mumbai Attacks.
Why the hell does every Tom, dick and harry think that they are smarter than a professional. (Okie lets leave Harry@ACIG)
out of this list). Its irritating as hell.
Yes lets stop having discussions and discussion forums. The forums of this world are full of news and threads on professional screw ups.
One odd thing I noticed about the Brazil FX-2 is the Russian unwillingness to provide ToT (or reported unwillingness). This is kinda new from them who have offered generous amounts of ToT for India and China. And Brazil do not really have a history of making clones like the latter.
May be the Russians don’t want to upset the Venezuelans.
I think the most obvious reason they went for the MRTT is because it can double up as transport. But I am with Austin in this one, in the end because of the Air Force’s lack of farsightedness we are going to lose like 4 years.
Its a bloody tanker get anything that can refuel.
Yes it would be, or we could post Logan’s message TOTP on every page, otherwise newer members may not get the meaning.
Great Work Rajan. And Austin one thing is clear.
WE HAVE TN BOMBS. NOT JUST ONE WE HAVE MANY, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE YIELD UP TO 200KT.
I really do not think for example the Chinese or Pakistanis want to find out if they work or not. 🙂 Hence that is credible deterrence.
Dear Logan,
Your point makes sense, the confusion is partly due the title of the thread. May be you can advice the next thread starter a change in title.
‘Rare Air forces thread’ is good.
Yet another reason why I believe the MRCA will be a single engined bird.
Saying that I really do not like Pranab as the Finance Minister he is a bit of an old school guy. Chidambaram was much more able, but home ministry is of more importance now.
I think you should not include Syrian AF in the small Airforces thread.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1501017&postcount=193
Ranked number 7 in terms of combat aircraft.
We need the MRCA inducted fast. Even the North Koreans have more combat aircraft.