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  • in reply to: The Brand New IAF Thread (IX) – Flamers NOT Welcome #2434230
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    What an appalling article. Fantasies of VTOL Eurofighters . . . . :confused:

    Only said Eurofighters with TVC not VTOL versions. Strengthend undercarriage versions taking off from a ski jump.

    in reply to: Indian Navy News and Discussions #2015182
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    1. If they get RFI they may offer a Naval Eurofighter with a strengthened undercarriage. As it won’t need to be launched of Catapults so major changes may not be needed.

    2. Eurofighter may get TVC in future but MIG 35 has it already on offer. Thrust Vectoring like in Harrier and F35B allows u to land vertically.

    3. Even with Wings folded Rafale is smaller than F A 18

    in reply to: Indian Navy News and Discussions #2015193
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    I think the Russians were playing hardball on the Mig 29K options and managed to rule them out of another deal.

    in reply to: Indian Navy News and Discussions #2015200
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    Indian Navy keen to buy newer generation aircraft

    By Gulshan R. Luthra
    New Delhi, Nov 22 (IANS) The Indian Navy has floated a Request for Information (RFI) for a newer generation of aircraft which can operate from the two indigenous aircraft carriers it will commission over the next 10 years.

    The Ministry of Defence and industry sources indicate that the RFI, issued recently, is of a “generic” nature, looking for newer platforms and airborne technologies and what is on offer from some of the well-known manufacturers. The US Boeing and French Dassault have confirmed receipt of the RFI for their respective F18 Super Hornet and Rafale.

    The number of newer generation aircraft is yet to be decided.

    According to the coming issue of India Strategic defence magazine, the new generation aircraft will be in addition to the 45 Mig-29Ks the navy is buying from Russia, 16 of which were ordered in 2004 along with Admiral Gorshkov. The Mig-29K is a modernized naval variant of the Mig-29 operational with the Indian Air Force (IAF).

    The order for an additional 29 Mig-29Ks is being processed, and is likely to be placed shortly after price negotiations and delivery schedule are worked out.

    There should be no delay from Russia on the supply of the Mig-29Ks although it has delayed the delivery of Gorshkov by four years and is also demanding an extra $1.2 billion over and above the contract price of $974 million. The old carrier was given free and the price was for repairing and refurbishing the vessel which was damaged in an onboard fire accident.

    The Super Hornet, a successor of the earlier Hornet, was introduced in 1998 for the US Navy while Rafale, a successor of the old Mirage 2005, has both air force and naval versions already operational. Both these aircraft are also competing for the nearly 200 Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (M-MRCA) requirement of the Indian Air Force.

    Eurofighter Vice President and Head of India Campaign Directorate Dr Matthias Schmidlin told India Strategic that while he could not confirm receipt of the RFI for the naval variant of Eurofighter, his company would bid for the Indian Navy’s requirement if invited.

    In fact, he pointed out, Eurofighter is the only aircraft among the six contenders for the IAF order which would have thrust vectoring capability in the coming years. Thrust vectoring capability allows an aircraft to stand still in the air, and takeoff and land even in vertical mode like a helicopter.

    Some 200 Eurofighters have been produced so far, predominantly to meet the requirements of participating nations which include Germany, Britain, Spain and Italy.

    Thrust vectoring is being developed and would be operational on Eurofighters within the first half of the next decade, Dr Schmidlin said.

    Harrier, which India bought in the late 1970s from Britain, was the first aircraft with thrust vectoring. The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), being developed by Lockheed Martin for US Air Force and Navy for the coming years, will have this capability.

    Besides Boeing, Dassault and Eurofighter, the other contenders in the IAF competition are Mig-35 (a newer version of Mig-29), Gripen from Sweden and F 16 Viper IN (US Lockheed Martin).

    The Indian naval brass is reportedly only doing a bit of loud thinking on its new requirement, but if it formally opens the competition in the coming years, it would add a new dimension to the IAF’s ongoing contest.

    IAF’s Request for Proposals (or tenders), is for a firm order for 126 aircraft and for 63 more as an option at the same price. Given the continuing fall in the number of IAF squadrons due to the obsolescence of its largely Soviet-vintage aircraft, a repeat order for at least 100 more MRCAs is likely.

    If the Indian Navy chooses the same aircraft, then it would be a bonus for the supplier, and also for HAL, which would be the lead integrator for Transfer of Technology (ToT) and 50 percent offset mandatory in the RfP.

    Procedurally, the Navy would also find it easier to buy the same aircraft without opening an international competition, as it would be a follow-on order requiring no multi-vendor bid.

    The Indian Navy has one small aircraft carrier, INS Viraat, which has recently been refitted and modernized for life-extension. There are a dozen old Harriers to operate from its deck, while Gorshkov will be available in 2012 or 2013.

    Notably, Gorshkov is a 44,000-tonne carrier while India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, being built at Kochi, will only have about 37,000-tonne displacement. The second carrier, already sanctioned by the government, could be modified to be a little bigger.

    Both these carriers are being designed by Italy’s Fincantieri.

    It may also be noted that both Eurofighter and Rafale are smaller in size than the F 18 Super Hornet, which operate from very large US aircraft carriers floating in all the oceans.

    But Boeing IDS’ Head for India, Dr Vivek Lall, told India Strategic that Boeing had done a computer simulation to verify that the Super Hornet could operate from Gorshkov and Indian carriers as and when they are commissioned.

    in reply to: IRAQ AIRFORCE NEWS (F-16 DEAL AND OTHERS) #2434246
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    India should offer the ALH Drhuv 🙂

    in reply to: F-35 News and Discussion #2434262
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    Japan gearing up to acquire F-35 fighters.

    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/rss/nn20091123a1.html

    It was expected always despite what the typhoon fanboys were saying.

    in reply to: The Brand New IAF Thread (IX) – Flamers NOT Welcome #2434268
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    1. The MRCA is most likely to be a western fighter.

    2. India and Russia however does not have diverging interests. The sale of RD 93s hardly change the balance of the forces. By that logic the sale of AWACS (by SAAB) and F 16 (by Lockheed), Upgrade of Mirages (France) is far more damaging yet the American, French and Swedish fighters are in the running.

    3. Russia is not a ‘rising power’ it may be trying to regain its position economically, but it still has more nukes than the United States. Russia is still the second biggest military power in the world. China has to go a long way to match them.

    in reply to: The Brand New IAF Thread (IX) – Flamers NOT Welcome #2434419
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    Great News Indeed Cheers Teer 🙂

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    For China, the J-10 is a huge aeronautic break-thru (finally after several failures), which must be praised without any compromise …. and for Russia it must be down-played, since it is a huge brak-thru.

    I never disagreed to this. Neither did I say J 10 was Lavi there are obviously a lot of changes the Lavi most probably was the base design.

    (see the tread about “China Humbly Launches Serial Production of Stolen Russian Fighter Jets”
    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95878).

    Is it not this very thread ?

    in reply to: Germany To Cut Eurofighter Order, Seek Exports #2434546
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    With the US refusing to sell Taiwan more F-16’s, maybe Germany could offload them there.

    I cannot think of any country in the present situation wanting to get on China’s bad books, the only way Taiwan is going to get new fighters is if Sino-U.S relations worsen (unlikely at the moment), or if China manage to **** of Russia in some way.

    in reply to: MMRCA News and Discussion IV #2434558
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    Ok but this is purely academic argument. If India can produce BrahMos with 300km range at M3, then it can surely make (modify) one missile in its arsenal, which will make 310km at M 2.98.

    What’s the point?

    Brahmos range is 290 kms and that is because of MTCR. If India develops a cruise missile with over 300 km range without Russian help, then the other nations can export missiles of similar range to India. 😉

    in reply to: MMRCA News and Discussion IV #2434592
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    MTCR is established mainly due the necessity to limit nuclear payload delivery range, not conventional warheads

    Yes but its signatories are not allowed to sell Missiles with 300KM+ ranger to countries which do not have that tech already.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -II #2015274
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    I wonder at what point does Germany say to Israel “sorry but we are no longer going to give you kit for free or massively reduced price”?

    When German guilt is over. With so many reminders the answer would be never. 😉

    in reply to: MMRCA News and Discussion IV #2434726
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    Yeah, but it isn’t up to Boeing. They can show all the weapons F-18E has integrated, but that doesn’t mean the US government will allow their export. Anyway, India would be better off with Scalp/Storm Shadow (what Black Shaheen is a reduced range version of) or Taurus. They’re far more reliable, enough that using one per target gives a better hit probability than firing three JASSMs, even with the recent improvement in its test results.

    Gripen carries the Taurus right or can it carry the Black Shaheen ? I ask because I believe its the only Eurobird with a chance in this contract.

    in reply to: Tanker Draft RFP party #2434744
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    Originally Posted by irtusk
    1. the osprey isn’t an aircraft

    The funniest statement I have ever seen in this forum. LOL

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