For nth time, both the aircraft cleared technical evaluations. Doesn’t matter anymore.

I know this still people are arguing about it, I was just replying to them. Did you see where some one posted earlier that Rafale was rated above etc etc,.

I thought Dassault should be very aggressive to get the deal, but then I don’t know if the article is true or not.

But if Dassault actually manages to make some profit on the deal, it won’t have to catch up on the support costs. Eurofighter could very well cut a real good deal up front and get the money back the support contracts.

It’s hard to tell which strategy would be better without looking at the whole deal, but in the article the impression given is that Dassault didn’t make too much effort while Eurofighter did. I hope it’s not as clear cut.

Nic

You must never underestimate Dassault’s ability to lose from a winning position like in Morraco.

Teer raises a valid point, the MRCA as big is it brings a lot back to India in-terms of offsets & ToT. For a much smaller company like Dassault it may become a business decision that people up top may thing it may be better economically to lose the deal.

As for the support costs I thought it was also part of the calculations in determining the L1.

As a plane I like the Rafale more, but recent French showings are not good (iffyness about offsets, Sarko could shouldering our P.M etc)

It will be done in phases like the Su 30 I think.

I did read on this very fora that western HMDS are indeed lighter.

Then again French don’t envisage any other fighter till the 2040s I guess. May be the UCAV programme ?

Many Russian aircrafts have had better aerodynamics than F15, yet if you were proposed to go to war in a flanker or a F15 which one would you choose ?

F 15 C vs Su 30 MKI/35 = Flanker

F 15K/SG vs the above = Eagle

Even if the 5% figure is true, a finished plane which cost 5% less than a not finished plane doesn’t sounds too shoking to me.

In one case the co-development will be for new projects: conformal side AESA antenas, GaN AESA, sattelite data link, AESA wave forming, data link and jaming, carrier version, nuke, new comon missiles, etc.

In the other case the co-development will be to finish the job left down unfinished by a bunch of Europeans who’ve already turned the Eurofighter page.

It’s obvious that the Eurofighter fans are mostly motivated by business aim unlike the French who are more focused on a parnership to reinforce our independance model.

Not taking sides as I prefer the Rafale of the two but don’t say things like the French are not motivated by Business. The Mirage deal clearly shows they are.

The price is for the finished Eurofighter anyway India is not going to pay for Radar integration and all that additionally.