^Russian electronics in early 2000s isn’t exactly something to boast of… And TR category is so large we can compare and counter with examples.

And I think plan does need more MPAs — maybe surface sureillance can be done through OTH and increasingly UAVs, but their ASW desperately needs augmentation.

I don’t think ie is “jealous” plan doesn’t have a plane like the p-8… Putting it another way, I wonder what his opinion would be if PLAN got a similar deal as what IN is getting now?

I honestly think its a case of sour grapes. The restrictions have certainly helped in the development of Chinese defense industry but the point is they don’t have anything comparable and don’t have the option to purchase it.

Capability is capability whether purchased or developed in house. This point seems to be lost on certain people.

Now they may not ‘need’ it simply because they cannot have it, that does not meen the p 8 -i is useless as he says. IMO it was always intended to work as part of a wider system with in the IN and thus carries IN specefic datalinks and equipment.

Another strategic aspect of this deal is the convergence of U.S and Indian naval interests in the IOR. Compared to the Army and Airforce of the two countries the Navies co-operate a lot more and are involved in various exercises. I for one will not be surprised if the P8I in future will end up as just one of the cogs in an Indo-US strategic Bulwark against the PLAN in IOR. 😉

why would I be envious of some thing that I think is essentially a waste of money.

and I am serious here,
P-8 is intended to work with BAMS, that was always the original intent.
BAMS aspect is taking away the persistence survallence part from P-8, which is kind absurd because P-8’s platform is not exactly ideal for low altitude ASW work either. If any of you have flown in a 737-800 in a low speed low altitude turbulence you would know what i mean. hence the gadgetary designed to dispense torpedos and sonarbuoys. Will IN buy BAMs and dispensers? haven’t heard.

now If I am given the choice, I would use it to buy the maritime survallence radar and EW equipment and do my own installations on some low hour 2nd hand freighter, given the industrial base that we have in India. may be I can get more airframes and strength out of that. ( a low hour 737 LR cost what, 60 mil on the 2nd hand market, and no worries on somebody to bug you because everything is done inhouse?) but no… instead you got to send the comm gear etc etc for Boeing to “install/integrate”…
so every time one of those P-8I took off, some body some where half way across the world would know exactly where its at and what its doing, and may be tip off PakN if it strayed too close. 😉

Please watch the P 8-I videos India is gettin dispensers and all that. And these guys making decisions are not amateurs like yourself.

As for the integration its already done and it makes little sense to do it all in house for such a small number of airframes. Do you think an aircraft or an airforce is not potent because the equipment is not integrated ormade in the home country.

Those Ships/Subs will be done for whether its American weapons or Indian 😉

You are apparently Jealous because China does not have something of the same class and cannot buy it from anywhere because of restrictions and because Russian don’t have anything similar.

as such I don’t think they are more effective than your regular airliners with a big radar.

haha 🙂 Envious are we ?