No and no timeline either. No customer has requested integration of an ASM yet.
The Typhoon ad for Indian Navy showed the RBS 15.
sematics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asiayeah… and when people who are influencial in IAF make these comments and routinely make these amatureish assessements, I worry about their ability to make the right decision at the right time… mis-calculations etc, could very much push india into needless conflicts.
also, who are they fighting in this two front war? fighting over what? china and pakistan? does india seriously think it can win some sort of aggressive war over china? and why is it preparing for war? who exactly is threatening it? don’t tell me it is pakistan because clearly a internally unstable pakistan is in no position to launch a aggressive conventional war.
china? over what? over borders where china repeatly wants India to sit down and negotiate but india repeatly refuses over the past 20 years?
Mr. Singh is clearly not an aggressive man.
thus I am worried. there are clearly aggressive elements in India’s national security complex that wants a war that India can neither afford or win nor is necessary. and those aggressive elements demonstrates repeately with these amaturish comments that they are not too capable of solid analytical thinking either.
Who is talking about aggressive war with China ? The doctrine revolves around local air superiority in a defensive war vs China while being on the offensive against Pakistan. This would only come if China supports Pakistan in terms of a subcontinental conflict. This is the reason why a few Indian members argue for dedicated air superiority platforms like the Typhoon.
I hit “quote” instead of “edit”. does that make me morally inadequate?
that ACM comment didn’t hurt my feelings. it merely raised my eye brows and forced a re-assessement of the rogue behavior of world’s 4th largest airforce and by extension the instability south asian subcontinent.
Its called the Indian Sub Continent and not the South Asian sub-continent. Raise eye brows all you want on the instability, but India is preparing itself for a potential two-front war in which IAF will have a big role to play.
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Coming up: an analysis of the development cost of the LCA
Something that may make matt happy.
Four of the Six fighters in the MRCA, the Super Hornet, Rafale, Gripen & Typhoon all claim to have the lowest RCS amongst all fourth gen fighters. I know its classified but only one of it can be true.
Would the IAF publish its MRCA evaluation like the Norwegians did (the Gripen vs F 35 thing)
Thats an awesome pic, do you have link to high res ?
That was really an awesome education Scorpion. Let me thank you here as well.
what worries me is the consistent way which key people both inside IAF and outside make amatureish assessments of their forces’s supposed overall qualitative and quantative superiority, based on some very specific technical platform matchups. coupled with the grossly inappropriate Indian chief’s ACM comment aimed obviously at J-20 and china.
this calls into the question of miscalculation on part of some of the key people inside of world’s 4th largest airforce… with nukes to boot.
Oh hi there 🙂 now that you are acknowledged you can be happy and may be stop quoting your own posts. Please give the ACM comment a rest, I am no ACM but if he hurt your feelings I apologize. 😀
Judging a fighter on weight is flawed, and even more flawed if you come to the conclusion heavier=better
Hurricane was heavier than Spitfire, but was it the better fighter ?
P-47 was twice as heavy as P-51, but was it a better fighter ?
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Hurricane vs Spitfire, I remember watching discovery Wings where they said Hurricane because of the materials used for its construction was easier to maintain and could survive more hits.
Gripen Modern Day Hurricane ! ?
I think its 1000 posts per thread.
I thought as MKI were getting already made for India and others it would be cheaper to purchase it, and should not cost much for upgrades for the RuAF if they do it with the IAF.
Well just a thought that it makes a little more sense than it looks.
You could have saved all that and just said Rafale…..
happens all the time. they haven’t got any thekadari for honesty just because they are an international mag. if you have been reading stuff in the media for as long as I have you would be far more sceptical of believing things just because they say so. lobbying, advertisements do more than their fare share of deciding a magazine’s ’tilt’. that’s true for any magazine but especially for specialized ones like those in defence because ad revenues comes from a limited number of sources.
We are going around in Circles and hence I would like to bury the hatchet and make peace with you till the LCA FoC (by the time MRCA will be selected as well), then we shall revisit this argument again.
May be its because Tejas is too good to be a LIFT trainer because some of the aircraft IAF has currently are rather old. Imagine training in the Tejas with its awesome FBW and graduating to the MIG 21 !
How about Economics of Scale ? Making lot of MKIs should make it cheaper than the Su 35 ? Piggy back on the Indian BARS upgrade/AESA and you get something nearly as capable as the Su35S ?