Good to hear you’re restoring this rare aircraft and I wish the project well. When this G.46 arrived in the UK the first time (if I recall correctly it was reported in Air Pictorial as having been airlifted into Northolt) there was some uncertainty amongst historians about its true identity. It was initially unmarked and then was reported as being painted with a spurious serial in the UK. If you intend to put it back in the air presumably you’ve got paperwork that confirms its true origin so it would be very interesting if you could clarify its genuine MM serial.
Tim
And another one that almost certainly still exists, according to G-INFO, but non-airworthy. G-AILL at Speke circa 1960. Old RAF/FAA site with Bellman hangar in background, all long gone.
It was once operated by the Waveney Flying Group (of which at one time in the 60s I was an honorary member). This Messenger ended up with Harold Best-Devereux and he reportedly had some strange plans for structurally altering the design. It sadly ended its days at Rush Green near Luton in a very bad way – the wings were apparently sawn off. Its mortal remains went their various ways – bits of fuselage were obtained to help in restoring another airframe. The vestiges of the outer wings do, it is believed, survive and it seems possible they could surface as part of composite static restoration with components from other machines; but to say ‘ILL survives is a little generous. I’ve extracted some aspects of the above from an Air-Britain series of articles that covered the history of every Messenger airframe.
Ahhhh Miles! Of this manufacturer’s products I’ve been lucky enough to fly in a Falcon, Magister and Messenger (though not a Gemini but would love to do that). Some idea of the experience in a Messenger can be gained from this cockpit view I took and here’s also a landing shot of the machine I was in.
Tim


that was a little uncalled for perhaps?
I thought (as I always try to be ) I was being helpful and informative and saving someone a wasted journey – what’s the problem with that:confused:
If you check their website details they are closed to the public from the last Sunday in October until next Spring – so NO. See:
http://www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/museum_information.html
Here you go. Best I could do for you as the shot is through glazing.
Just to whet the appetite – here’s a shot I took last year of the Shackleton being run up on a slightly foggy night. We do hope you can come along to see some of the Flight’s aircraft on the 14th – it should be something a little different!
Tim

Looks like a Dragonfly to me when compared to the known Dolphin shot on the left.
Tim
Ok after re-reading the thread i am slightly confused
where is the pannier located?
668
What’s causing confusion?
In my post initiating this thread I explained that it is:
“in the John Dowly Scrap Yard at Battlefield, located on the A49 North of Shrewsbury in Shropshire” – that is unless it’s been removed quite recently which seems unlikely.
Tim
Ben,
What a fantastic item – it will make a super exhibit at your already fascinating museum. I expect you’re already aware, but the character depicted in this nose art has the origin explained by the following link. Hope this helps.
Tim
Rather than rely on a modern recreation as a comparison, how about the real thing. This period shot shows it could well be Swiss Air Lines – the S of the script on the stairs looks similar. The Final S on the fuselage however is placed more directly over the window.
I only met Alan occasionally but over the years corresponded with him regularly as he published many of my photos and some articles. His knowledge of and enthusiasm for aviation knew no bounds and he inspired many budding authors. A real doyen of aircraft publishing R.I.P.
Tim
Thanks for sharing the link. Unusual to see film of a Scimitar flying and of the Lanc before she was refitted with an upper turret.
First I thought I read: Not a Noratlas but a Fart!:D
Must be the wind of change:) Thanks for amending the title Pete.