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  • in reply to: can somebody id this wreck #1267833
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    ………..the aircraft is near turkey

    A Fry’s Turkish (de)light bomber perhaps? 😀

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    Hi a1exhall,

    The situation re this B.170, presently at Wetaskiwin, has been discussed on a prior thread to which I provide a link below. My input to that thread included a photo I took of this machine last year. Disappointing in some respects if the B.170 is now for open sale on Ebay as it had been reported recently that an arrangement was being negotiated to hopefully enable its return to the UK – but now that appears less certain in the light of your post. I suppose it’s a reality of commerce that they must seek the best return on the asset and there will be competition to obtain it. Thanks for flagging up.
    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=55095&highlight=Bristol+Freighter

    in reply to: Leave 'em in New Guinea? #1268275
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    ………………..
    No one asked the people of PNG if they’d like W.W.II to be fought over them. The support the Papuans and others gave us was excellent. However, since W.W.II we’ve done relatively little for them and it’s easy to see (from a PNG point of view) as a lot of take and little give. A lot of their people died in a war that didn’t make a lot of difference to their quality of life. Had the Japanese won, it would have been worse; but it’s hardly better than it was pre-war – not a great achievement by the Allies, I’m afraid. They live in the world as it is, and it’s tough – telling them it’s better than it might have been is a short conversation. ………………
    Cultural imperialism is a nasty problem.

    JDK you make valid and interesting points here which, from a moral standpoint, aren’t solely pertinent to wreck recovery. Similar arguements can be applied re the effects of trading with repressive regimes to release valuable warbirds. Rare examples have been purchased en mass,by or on behalf of western collectors, for restoration to airworthy status. If that meant funds were paid to representatives of such military regimes, how can that be defended if such aircraft weren’t in physical jeopardy (which was an arguement re PNG). It sends out the message that trading with such regimes is OK ? Surely this has adverse knock-on effects for the local population as it helps sustain the regime’s legitimacy? I have mixed feelings – I feel hypocritical as I welcome the fact such airframes may fly again but do the benefits outweigh the consequences of the trade?

    in reply to: Rapide for Sale. #1269584
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    F.I.O. at C.V. in Madrid have announced they’re seeking one so what’s the likelihood…………

    in reply to: Mag Men Antoinette #1273173
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    Thanks Mike – good to see it’s more accessible than when I took my shot – I can’t recall but believe it’s one of the ex-Berlin machines which became parted from their wings in transit.

    in reply to: Mag Men Antoinette #1274126
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    Matt
    The Polish Antoinette is original and I managed to gain access to it in deep store at Krakow. It’s in need of much TLC – I expect my photo will have Hairyplane in tears!

    in reply to: Mag Men Antoinette #1275485
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    Hants & Sussex Aviation were reported to have built to contract not one but three examples of the Antoinette for the film; two to airworthy status. By 1972 one was at Fairoaks whilst another of them was undergoing rebuild in Geneva, Switzerland.

    In the US, in addition to the replica with the Owls Head organisation – it was reported that in the early 1990s an Antoinette replica was held in store under rebuild by the naissant Nevada Air & Military Museum which at that time expected to set up near Minden, Nevada USA. Perhaps it is one of the H&S examples – the machine may remain stored in that area?

    Hope this might help.

    in reply to: Vormezeele Lysander now on show with BAHAAT #1276563
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    I was aware of that first person account when I wrote my initial posts so my conclusions weren’t speculation.

    in reply to: Vormezeele Lysander now on show with BAHAAT #1276925
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    Wasn’t somebody recently asking after the Peter Dimond Lysander and Bolingbroke recoveries to the UK from Canada?
    I think you have it here.
    Mark

    Mark 12
    I’m not so sure – I thought those handled by Peter D. (stored then in the Portsmouth or Southampton area) were the Lysander (reported as possibly RCAF 1589) and Bolingbroke that ended up with the Musee de’L’air and destroyed in the hangar fire a Le Bourget? Eric V had reputedly been the owner of both of those immediately before their move to Paris.

    However, Lysander RCAF 2364 now reported at BAHAAT has previously been described in preservation listings as being held by the CWH at Hamilton as a source to help rebuild their C-GCWL. So when did Eric obtain this Lysander if it is RCAF 2364?

    in reply to: Another ID challenge #1277673
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    Mike,
    It was reported as having a crusing speed of 196 mph and max of 220 mph with a climb rate of 1338 ft/min when fitted with Regnier 4EO engines. The nacelles could take larger power plants. Fuselage was wooden so empty weight was 1995 lbs, loaded 2910 lbs.

    in reply to: Another ID challenge #1277693
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    Its the Hirsch Maerch 100 built in France and was involved in gust absorption experiments.

    in reply to: Another ID challenge #1290674
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    Easy – Kayaba Heliplane from 1952/4 – based on Cessna 170B fuselage with Continental engine and rotor was powered by 3x Ishikawajima ramjets.
    Next!

    in reply to: Spitfire PR.IV BP929 rebuild? #1291792
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    Ex Soviet ‘Orator’ or follow-up machine.
    Mark

    I don’t have a personal copy of Spitfire International … but from another source I scanned I had the impression that those PR.IVs that “survived” Orator use were only then given over to the Soviets. Did the example in question crash during Orator operations or subsequently i.e. was it at the time in RAF or Soviet service?

    in reply to: It’s Not Just Aircraft That It Happens To! #1292998
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    Probably thought it was a good approach after noticing that fellow Scottish institution at E. Fortune is to receive a deconstructed B.707!

    in reply to: Bent props #1307905
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    Dave,

    Sorry to go off-topic but having flown up front in Consul G-AIKR during its time with the Rapid Flying Group at Baginton UK, I was delighted to see it’s still safe as depicted in the background to your shot. I became reacquainted with it only a few years ago when I photographed it in store at Ottawa. I’ve looked at the Wigram link from your own excellent website but what progress can you report on its restoration to Oxford status – the Wigram site only illustrates the wing centre-section?

    Regards
    Tim

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