You mean every aspect of historic aviation would cease because there are no air shows??
No, not every aspect, but the historic flying side would melt into hangars/museums if there was nowhere to (air) display them. A lot of aircraft are funded directly or indirectly by air shows and it would have a knock-on effect throughout the (historic) aircraft industry. Same for new aircraft, where/how would companies show off their latest Military fighter or Airliner to the world?
maybe, every aspect of aviation would suffer because there are no air shows
just my opinion
Baz
RIP
Air show are death waiting to happen.
Here in the U. S., one of the positive effects of the infamous sequestration has been the cancellation of a number of air shows. Good.
What a strange post, without air shows we would have no airworthy historic aeroplanes, no enthusiasts, no Flypast magazine, no Duxford, no forum, no Red Arrows, etc……….just stuff in museums gathering dust.
So clearly your view is to erase all elements of the loosing side of any war your on the right side of, ie commemorating only the Victors?, on the basis that the history of man doesnt need to record or retain anything of that other side? Yet wisdom acknowledges those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.
I’m sorry but I think you are confusing the purpose of recovering and preserving the Do-17, as being to commemorate the enemy?, and apparantly have a significant issue with that, and apparantly the preservation of any axis aircraft more generally?, regardless of their condition?
In fact I wouldnt be surprised to find the AWM has acquired and preserved a Taliban IED given its major role against Australians in both Afganistan and Iraq, and being one of the primary causes of injuries and deaths of Australian servicemen in those conflicts, and have certainly collected similar from the Viet Kong and NVA.
The survivors of those Wars assemble each Anzac Day in April and each Armistance Day in November, and commemorate honour our fallen, (and to be acknowledged by we fellow Australians), in this sacred place and have done so since the 1940s when it was built, and neither their returned service organisations, nor they individually, do not complain/object to these objects from their enemies being preserved and displayed in “their” sacred War Memorial.
This is not done to elevate the “evil regimes” of Germany and Japan, or to commemorate them, it is to record both sides of the war that young Australians died in, so future Australians can know and learn from that.
I therefore certainly dont share your view and opinion in regards to worth of recovering and conserving the Do-17, a combat veteran of the Battle of Britain, (not only an important air battle in UK history but also world history), and consider your opinion to be wrong, mis-placed, and mis-guided, although I do appreciate your an ex-serviceman and may have strong personal feelings on such issues.
However I consider I’m entitled to oppose that view even though I’m not a returned veteran and you may be, as certainly my father and many others were and are, and having seen and heard their views of the AWM, I’m happy to side with their views.
I therefore accept their collective position and acceptance of the collection, preservation and display of enemy objects, weapons, uniforms vehicles and aircraft in our National place of commemoration. I think the majority of Australians who visit the AWM would also share my view, not yours.
I dont wish to go off topic any further into this issue, or need for a debate to commence between us over this issue.
I’ve made my views known and I will leave you with the above to contemplate, your views and position have been made known a number of times, and of course your welcome and entitled to them.
But its out of the water, and at RAF Cosford, and there’s little point repeating ongoing opposition to that situation in here, or in this thread/forum?
I would suggest you exercise your democratic right, and write to your MP if your not happy with the situation.
Regards
Mark Pilkington
Have to agree here.
………but who started the war…….
I did mentioned it once, however,……………I think I got away with it…….
Last night, I dreamt I ate a giant marshmallow, this morning I woke up and found a pillow missing…….
Last night, I dreamt I ate a giant marshmallow, this morning I woke up and found a pillow missing…….
Oh Lord, they went for a full house of clichés
Moggy
They missed “…wrestling with the controls…”, haven’t seen that for awhile.
Liked “In our view some of the planes are dangerous, many of them are old and past their sell-by date.” (1978), sent a copy to the BBMF 🙂
Get well soon chaps.
Baz
I bloody well hope not, it was dire…. hell, we didn’t have anything for most of the time, they then months laterwe were issued pick axe handles…. years later on then when they blew up some Army barracks we went and collected our Muskets, a bit later on in the day they decided we’d actually be live armed and issued with Ammo…. that was then changed as fast as it came out, and several hours later on that day we handed our Muskets back in…
..that brought back memories…..
I bloody well hope not, it was dire…. hell, we didn’t have anything for most of the time, they then months laterwe were issued pick axe handles…. years later on then when they blew up some Army barracks we went and collected our Muskets, a bit later on in the day they decided we’d actually be live armed and issued with Ammo…. that was then changed as fast as it came out, and several hours later on that day we handed our Muskets back in…
..that brought back memories…..
The Avenger will have been too overloaded for operations with two Highball.
In the book ‘Bouncing-Bomb Man’, page 117, it appears to show an Avenger dropping a Highball with another in the belly. However, you may be right and on ops this may have been reduced to one.
Baz
Agree with RAF St Mawgan (of course) agree with F35 (of course) would remove all civvies northside, destroy the airport buildings completely and utterly, then remove all civvies from the HAS site except a certain replica aircraft maker, once I’ve recovered the borrowed gear (2k) and the 3k he still owes me, then kick him off. Remove all the partition fencing, reinstate the original control tower, give me my BCUMs job back, I’ll employ Pageon, wingcommderflap and dr strangelove to do the business……………****!……………………did I say all that out loud?
:rolleyes:
Baz
Felt poorly all week, took to bed Monday night and been there ever since. The only thing I’ve managed to keep down is water. Pretty miserable.
The weather is appalling with heavy rain and strong winds.
So what could possibly cheer me up?
A NationalHolidays coach pulls up outside my gaff, the side door opens and 2 punters jump off, race over to raised ground over looking my Spitfire, each take 1 photo, then race back to the coach.(must have been soaked!)
Made I laugh
Baz
Felt poorly all week, took to bed Monday night and been there ever since. The only thing I’ve managed to keep down is water. Pretty miserable.
The weather is appalling with heavy rain and strong winds.
So what could possibly cheer me up?
A NationalHolidays coach pulls up outside my gaff, the side door opens and 2 punters jump off, race over to raised ground over looking my Spitfire, each take 1 photo, then race back to the coach.(must have been soaked!)
Made I laugh
Baz