It’s almost as if our governments want us to live in fear of terrorism! :rolleyes:
Oh dear!
What could possibly be gained from that? :dev2:
What kind of panic stricken world is it, when peoples first assumption is terrorist attack?
Should there be a need to inform the general public, every time a jet escorts, or even fly near, an airliner?
I once participated in a military exercise in/near a residental area, where the public, and the police i might add, had been informed through both newspapers and radio well in advance. People nevertheless panicked and called the police, who, although they had been informed through the proper channels, turned up armed with with actual ammunition (naturally we only had blanks).
Luckily they had a feeling, that this might be an exercise, so they approached the scenario with that in mind and things were sorted quickly. This happened well before 9/11 and i often wonder how they would handle it today.
Well, changing from Attackers to Sea Hawks would hardly be considered to be today, or even yesterday 🙂
OP mentioned that some, according to legend, might still be in packing crates (maybe not aircraft, but engines and other parts).
Does anyone have another take on that story?
I would belive it possible, but very unlikely. We all know that tons of stuff was discarded after the war, but there were also quite a few surplus sales.
As a foreign observer, I find that the British tabloids seem to enjoy their “shaming” campaigns. Would that be an option?
I’m pretty sure the MOD are not actually proud of leaving an airman unrecovered, but as long as no one kicks up a stink, they are happy to save the money.
I’m also pretty sure, that the majority of Brits would be appalled, if they knew the current stance on recovery of British millitary personnel. In the modern political system, where politicians fight to appease and be popular, i doubt anyone will publicly support such a decision.
I simply can’t imagine anyone saying “We no longer care about those men, they can stay where they are”.
Just an idea (maybe it has already been tried).
Imagine the fuss, if somebody dumped 600 aircraft in the sea today.
What a shame that seawater and aircraft don’t mix well.
Thanks. Old aircraft pictures are always appreciated.
Thanks for replies all.
No, it wasn’t the Apollo I was thinking of. In the mid 60’s, I had the “Observers book of Aircraft” and there was a picture in there. I remember it only because it was an unusual manufacturers name, not one of the common ones. I always swore it was Boulton Paul. I am now thinking it was French.
Size, I also remember it was up there with the Brit.I’m allowed off days. Brain is full. New things come along, old things drop out.
I know the feeling. Once I took a wine tasting course and forgot how to drive a car…..:eek:
“A local bunker-entusiast went to explore the bunkeren, after it had arrived on the dunes during a storm on 1. March”
Surely the basis for a Goon show!! 😀
Yes, I can see the scene before me:
A rag-tag group of bunker-entusiasts looking skyward in anticipation of the arrival of the Nazibunkeren.
I see now why its rare!
For some reason, wooden pole type rotor masts never really hit it big time with helicopter designers……..
(BTW the entire rotor system is fake, or at least something for static display)
Hi Pete,
I would like to think, that anyone finding live ordnance would somehow report it, but then again……
The dreaded bunker collapse has installed fear in many adventurers, they are, however, designed to withstand quite some punishment. You would be far more likely to drown, or get blow up, than to be crushed (don’t know if its a comfort to know this).
Anyway, I remember hearing about people finding forgotten air-drops in Denmark (mostly in lakes). The dear old SOE had thankfully packed the goods well, and the stenguns still worked after 30-40 years. The Germans, however, had long since gone.
When I think about it, it strikes me, that there are most likely a lot more forgotten bunkers and secret holes/caves/cellers around Europe, than forgotten aircraft throughout the world…..maybe I should swap from aviation.
Digital translation has come along way.
Still makes for funny pidgin English, but clearly understandable.
A few bits, that it missed:
The bunker never actually “arrived” from anywhere, but was uncovered.
Sanddækkede = sand covered.
New to this thread, but it sounds fun!
So we have to take one photo from that weekend?
It can be digital and posted here?
Finally, how do we know, that its from that weekend; the honour system?
Anyway, count me in…
Hi Mondariz , take Mark Kirby for example , he was arrested for doing the right thing but with out MOD permission. This was a dig on sergent John Guilders Spitfire in kent that he did knowingly that there might be human remains on the site. He did this with the families approval & that of the land owner. He was charged with digging up human remains but later let of with a slapped wrist. Tangmere 1940 knows all about this.
If you want a good read then get the book entitled “Missing in action- Reasting in peace? ” by Dilip Sarkar.
Sergent Guilders was given a full military burial at brookwood military cemetry.Steve.
I don’t understand the attitude of the UK government.
As long as such a venture is undertaken by a competent crew, they should be happy someone else if paying the bill.
I’m sure there is a complex and maybe even “nessesary” legislation behind the whole thing, but once the family is behind the venture, it should relly be out of governmental hands.
I often have thoughts about investing in a metal detector & having a poke about at the (at least) 7 or 8 P38 crash sites in this area.
The problem with investigating wrecks around here is that we have wildlife that can seriously mess you up including (but not limited to) several kinds of Rattlesnake, Bears, Mountain Lions & Bobcats.I know one of the local P38 sites is awash with .50cal ammo…There’s even a P51 on another mountain near Ojai… several B24’s, a couple of P63’s, & at least 100 other known wrecks in this end of the county. The problem being that most of this stuff is just too dang inaccessible apart from the wrecks on the valley floor.
There’s even some very large pieces of Hellcat sat in the dirt at 29Palms Marine base (& a C130)
Jeez, where do you live 😀
Sounds like the Ameriocan west, so I will dare to venture, that such a wildlife threat might be slightly overestimated.
Having read some statistics (was once planning a “survival trip” to a place that sounds a bit like it), I will point out, that the chance of wildlife attack, is far less than Discovery channel will let you to belive.
It might only be slightly higher, that getting killed for trespassing (by a psychotic owner) in the UK.
Another idea would be to bring a dog. With the exception of rattle snakes, the animals you mentioned don’t like dogs and will keep their distance (not talking about bringing a chihuahua). Regarding rattlers, that the dog will notice the snake before you do and lower the risk of stepping on it.