There seem to be some distance between decomission and scrapping, when it comes to military bureaucracy.
While its often easy to take an aircraft out of service, nobody wants to sign the scrapping order. I guess thats the guy, who would get any blame, if the order was somehow revoked.
These two were in Karup for years, before being moved to Vandel, where they slowly rot.
Maybe same aircraft on a recent picture from Vandel:
The point is (again), that there are historic aircraft out there. Those air forces that used WWII and early post-war aircraft up to the late 60’s and early 70’s, might still have a few “stored” in shelters, or even sitting on the grass.
It is likely that they were decomissioned, but the actual scrapping order never carried out, or not carried out fully. So even if they are officially scrapped, they could still exist.
There are still at least two B-29s on the China lake range (they can be seen on Google earth). Even if the official stand seem to be, that there are no more B-29 there (maybe one of the US readers can shed some light here).
Any story about aircraft decomissioned, stored and later scrapped, deserves a mention, as some might have slipped past the melter.
I just found a few pages with info on L7793:
Thats great news.
Can you say anything about the find. Was it actually found in an outhouse, or was that just the parachute?
I had heard about Kermit Weeks and Fantasy of Flight. I’m sure he also have a few aircraft that are not exhibited. The two other private collectors are what I like to read about.
What’s fascinates me, is the people who, like Soplata, just collects and stores for no other reason than their collectors gene.
I can appriciate Soplatas work in saving a number of aircraft, which may not have survived otherwise (but does anyone know if there were other bidders?), but at the moment, it seems they are just deteriorating untill a new owner some day begin the restoration work.
I have come across the “Collector” in other walks of life (cars, motorcycles, well anything that can be collected really) and they have a counterpart in the “Barn-finder”.
The “barn find” could be considered the holy grail of restoration. To open that Russian barn and see (insert exotic aircraft name here) parked between the tools and machinery.
This car story (link below) originally appeared as a “Barn find”, but is now belived to be a “secret” collection. It does however illustrate how some collectors amass their items, for mostly private enjoyment (fair play, its their collection).
http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/
Maybe there are not too many extraordinary aircraft collections out there, but I’m pretty sure, that there are many single aircraft “waiting to be found”.
Some of these aircraft might not even have been purchased for aviation reasons. Maybe someone had designs on the engine, or wanted the materials for something. The main point is, that along the way, they became “that thing in the back of the barn”.
That was really my intend with this thread. To shine some light on those “forgotten” aircraft, that exist outside the warbird community.
Like the actual “Grail stories” most of the information would be false. Rumours that have survived the aircraft, or maybe there never was an aircraft to begin with. But some would have a bit of truth in them.
Maybe a Spanish officer did stash away a few He-111, or maybe the German farmer did hide a number of Db601 engines in his basement.
This thread is also for rumour posts. Some can be debunked by people who know more, but maybe there are a few rumours, that can lead someone to something else. If not, I’m sure they are good stories anyway.
PS. The He-111 and Db601 examples are fabricated to illustrate the idea.
Since i have been surprised by two large private collections recently, I was wondering if there are any other ones out there.
Does anyone know?
Harry Tate was a famous music hall comedian during the early part of the 20th century. I think that makes it sort of rhyming slang but not cockney.
I’m not cockney either (I’m danish), but you don’t need to be to hear it.
R-E EIGHT = A-E ate = Harry tate…..:cool:
I can actually belive, that this name was in everyday use. Easier than the original name, and somewhat humourous.
Did they really call the Lockheed Hudson ‘Old Boomerang’ ?
Damn! Somebody in the marketing department should have been fired. Unless you are selling tea, or jam, don’t call your new product anything “Old”.
You are right, that it would be fair to note the difference between everyday users and joe public. I guess that user (pilot, crew and ground service) nicknames are more interesting to most readers here.
JDK
Why would it matter who gave the nickname?
The Danish media recently gave Dash 8, the unflattering nickname “Crash 8”, due to some landing accidents.
Surely no Dash 8 pilot would use that name, but its a nickname nevertheless. Also if it is only used in the media for a few months.
I do agree about your “not pilot use” theory about longer names. Unless they rime or are easier to say – like RE-8 = Harry Tate.
I was looking at wing-shapes too and also had trouble finding a match.
However, I can’t really make my self belive, thats its a JU52. What would it be doing there?
I think the AC next to the “Spit” is a Hunting Percival Provost Mk 53. The Burmese air force flew these once, but I don’t think they flew SAAB Safir.
In case anyone want to check the base, here are the location:
20°53’1.35″N 95°53’33.19″E
Just cut and paste into GE search bar.
There are a wingless Ac west of the “unknown”. Looks like a T-tail modern turboprop of sorts.
Following west out of the base, there is a T-33 gate guard.
“Burmese Airforce had DC-3’s and Airspeed Oxfords, it’s not an Oxford, can’t see its a DC-3 either..”
That was what i was thinking too.
Im sure this is Meiktila Air Force Base (just a quite corner) and the spitfire is the southern most of the small aircraft.
To be sure, I just checked up on the Burmese Bristol Freighters.
They had two, but they were both sold to Australia in 1966.
VH-TBC
VH-TBD
However, the latter was appearenty never moved to Australia. So the aircraft could be that one. Although i still don’t really think it looks like one.
Pretty sure its not a Bristol.
There is one here:
Seems the leading edge taper too much (on the first picture).
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/view.php?service=0&mid=20917
sure, its in Burma. They never operated JU-52, so im pretty sure its just my imagination. They did operate C-47.