Off the coast of Joûnie. Sea map gives area of -200>-2000 m depth. If you are intrested, you can hire a savalge ship to recover some parts of the wreckage on your own costs. 😉

Come on Sens, i can say the same for all the kills claimed by the Syrians.

However to be fair you have to see that the vast majority of kills are just confirmed by the side claiming them.

The only way you can confirm them is either the other side accepts them or you have a picture and a report well documented.

For the Russians the only Syrian MiG-25 shot down by Israel were two, no more.
For Iraq in Gulf war I only 3; and another 3 or 4 in the Iran-Iraq war

man i can give you the same, names and dates, however these kills also are denied by Israel, so giving names and dates does not mean to have accuracy if the other side denies them unless you have pictures or film

Even it were that claims only? The problem is that such sites do not stick to first hand sources. They do recycle known information in their way to see the reality. There is no serious intrest into details, which do deny that. At least you do realize that sometimes.
The shared kill of the MiG-25R was between a F-15C of 106. sqn No 821 (Captain Saul Schwartz) with AIM-7 and “improved Hawk” 31/8/82. The Syrian did a mistake by doing their recce run over the area of Beyrouth in a regular fashion. When proper operated, that could have by done by inpunity by the MiG-25R as several times before, but at that day it fell into a well-planned ambush. 😉

However where is the wreckage? why the russians claim it was just a hoax?

The video of such kill? by the way the Russians are not the only ones who rehash that material, in fact the only MiG-25s kills i have seen are on the ground

see

source of the pictures
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/imint/kosovo-80.htm
http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/bv/mig25iraq/mig25_iraq.html
http://luckyaviation.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html

What does cold logic tell you about that event. An AIM-54 was fired by a frustated F-14 crew outside the performance envelope. There was/is a rivalery between the USAF and USN crews. The few firing opportunities, when a Iraqi fighter showed up at all, were limited to the USAF at first. 😀
It did anger the “Tomcats”, that they did miss the few opportunities to fire the expensive AIM-54 against a real target, all that at time scale, when all were aware, it may have been the last chance to do so, before the “Tomcats” would go to retirement. It is much more to swallow by the “Tomcats”, that the Iranians did so before and do still operate F-14s. There is a reason, why the Irans do keep some F-14s still keep going, when the USA did all to prevent the surplus flow of spare parts after the retirement of the F-14s in US-service. 😀

Sens

with perspective you will see that the MiG-25 was a real threat during the 1970s, 1980s and part of the 1990s.

The MiG-25 was built mostly in the early 1970s and still in the 1990s and even early years of the 21st century was a very elusive fighter.

Its missiles were good in the 1970s and regular in the 1980s.

By 1990 the MiG-31 replaced it.

Now seeing it into prespective you can understand the fighter was a dangerous opponent

You mean this one?:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1300450&postcount=12
That’s a PD (=interceptor with radar). Since you can’t tell the versions apart I’m starting to doubt you ever got close to one, let alone fly it.

Using the PD in attack role and RB in interceptor? WTF?
That’s a wild claim, as far as I know nobody ever claimed something like this before, so you need to give a few more details.
Just how did they fit the radar in the metallic nose of the RB? :rolleyes:
What particular type of AAM and radar was that?
What do you mean by limited succes?
How many RBs were modified that way?
What is the rationale of converting a precius recce asset into an interceptor, when you had plenty of interceptors and could have bought more from the Soviet Union?

When did you chase those Jordanian F-16 ? What year?

here is a russian article that claims the Syrians shot down 12 israeli ircraft mostly F-4s and Mirage III with R-60s fired by MiG-25RBs

даже “бомбардировочные” Миг-25РБ, всё вооружение РВВ которых было ограничено четырьмя Р-60М, сумели сбить 12 израильских перехватчиков(в основном – “Фантом” и “Мираж”),

However the article is sloppy since they claim the Israelis shot down two MiG-25s in 1982, when in reality it happened in 1981.

The article also claims by the time of the Iran-Iraq war, the MiG-25 had bagged Mirage IIIs, Kfirs, F-4s, F-15s, and F-14s

Во время Ирано-иракской войны МиГ-25 с новой РЛС “Сапфир-М” одержал немало побед над истребителями “Кфир”, “Мираж”, “Фантом”, F-15, даже над иранскими перехватчиками F-14, “Томкет”, созданных в Америке, отчасти, специально для противодействия МиГ-25, причём, почти без потерь. “Чёрным днём” МиГ-25 был Сирийско-израильский конфликт 1982 года, когда в ходе боёв в долине Бекаа самолётами F-15 “Игл” были сбиты два МиГ-25,

You mean this one?:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1300450&postcount=12
That’s a PD (=interceptor with radar). Since you can’t tell the versions apart I’m starting to doubt you ever got close to one, let alone fly it.

Using the PD in attack role and RB in interceptor? WTF?
That’s a wild claim, as far as I know nobody ever claimed something like this before, so you need to give a few more details.
Just how did they fit the radar in the metallic nose of the RB? :rolleyes:
What particular type of AAM and radar was that?
What do you mean by limited succes?
How many RBs were modified that way?
What is the rationale of converting a precius recce asset into an interceptor, when you had plenty of interceptors and could have bought more from the Soviet Union?

When did you chase those Jordanian F-16 ? What year?

What is he saying is not so unlikely

Why? airforce.ru has an article about the MiG-25BR and they wrote about the MiG-25 Iraqi deployment.

They say the MiG-25 was first bought as a recce aircraft and just later was turned into a bomber with MiG-25BRs,

Затем, по просьбе иракской стороны, самолеты МиГ-25Р были доработаны до варианта МиГ-25РБ путем установки бомбовых держателей для подвески восьми авиабомб ФАБ-500Т-М62

they say the Iraqi used french made bombs on the MiG-25 (most likely durandal) что арабская сторона пыталась применять с МиГ-25РБ французские бомбы (предположительно «Дюрандаль». Системы самолета МиГ-25РБ были настроены на бомбометание советскими бомбами с определенными баллистическими характеристиками. Французские бомбы имели другие характеристики, и точность их применения была из-за этого очень низкая.

and that the aircraft has not much accuracy unless it used nuclear bombs
Для бомбометания такие отклонения были очень большими и результаты такого применения с военной точки зрения были весьма и скромными. Возможно, что в период глобальной войны (к которой в тот период и готовились) этот недостаток предполагалось компенсировать применением ядерных бомб.

also they say a few were shot down and one was by an iranian fighter.
, как в середине 1985 года был потерян МиГ-25РБ (бортовой №124) Он был сбит ракетой с иранского истребителя,
see

http://www.airforce.ru/aircraft/mikoyan/mig-25rb/page_07.htm

If it is true they do not say exactly the same of what he claims at least they mention the french involvement on the iraqi MiG-25

The SR-71 had optimum range at M2.8-3.2 depending on various parameters. Therefore flying faster was more efficient. The MiG-25 was less optimized for those speeds and cruised comfortably at M2.35. Where it achieved the best specific range … I don’t know. I guess firebar with his unrestricted access to all Soviet documents will enlighten us.

Always remember: the MiG-25 handles like a spacecraft!

It did handle like a spacecraft, you might be kidding but it was a high flying aircraft.

However the manual says some specifics about the time it can spend flying at Mach 2.35, however it only mentions the MiG-23BR with bombs and heaveir the load less time it can fly, but i guess it will fly more without bombs