Many thanks for that Christer.

Don’t suppose you have any data for the 500 series do you?

Melvyn,

I seem to remember reading that PT462 was fitted with a Packard Merlin 224 after a wheels up landing. And according to the G-INFO site, it still is.

Btw, when are you going to do ‘Spitfire – Inside & out’? 😉

Cheers

Paul

Glad you got the articles ok Daz!

Ummm, that stumped me too as I thought the Merlin 35 was a late production single stage, single speed and not an overly powerful variant used in the Boulton Paul Balliol, and is often used in some of todays airworthy Spits – BBMF Baby’s & HAC MKV for example.

I’ve never seen any power output data for it ( I’m guessing round the 1250 HP mark) but can’t see it giving as much grunt as a two stage, two speed example.

I wonder if he was comparing it to the restored PT462 (at the time though it had a M66), or wartime data which begs the question F,LF or HF?!

And I wonder at what altittude? :confused:

Cheers

Paul

Sure would! 😉

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Paul

Daz, the correct details are in my earlier post – repeated above (although I was one day out for the Duxford show date which was in fact the 11th). The accident was not on the way back from Duxford but some three weeks later.

The lovely shots of ‘EE606’ bring back some great memories of that wonderful Sunday at Dx. Thanks for posting them Moondance.

From what I can remember, it was displayed at the BAe Families Day at Dunsfold earlier in the day of the crash (July 1st) by Dave Southwood and after it’s return to it’s home strip at Roundwood, was taken up by Mr Church later in the evening for what turned out to be his last trip in a Spitfire. 🙁

Maybe this should be in the Charles Church thread, but regarding this ‘Spitfire’ I remember at the time of it’s restoration and after the crash, it seemed to be a rather controversial one in the eyes of many. IIRC, there was a lot of disapproval from the likes of us regarding not just it’s provenance, but the fact that it had not been restored to ‘true’ MKV standard.

Like PT462, it had some trademark ‘Charles Church’ modifications including short span ailerons, modified systems, the modern slanted aerial. Plus a four bladed prop and lots of other things that were non standard, or so I was led to believe. I even seem to recall there were plans to fit it with modern and digital instruments although I’m not sure if the latter was true! :confused:

And I seem to recall in one of the national papers that reported on the crash, someone from either the AAIB or CAA was quoted as describing it as a ‘*******’ airframe, seemingly implying this was the case with the whole Charles Church fleet (& Warbird restorations in general) and that an accident was inevitable although we know the latter was not the case.

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Paul

Smashing pictures Falcon & many thanks for sharing them. 🙂

It would be nice to see this machine at next years Legends alongside the RAC Buchon and the two Messerschmitt Foundation machines! 😀

The chap in the photo’s is indeed the same guy who was in the Robbie Coltrane programme.

And the programme with the incockpit footage from the OMFC Buchon & HAC’s Spitfire V was from the ‘Flightline’ series of programmes titled ‘Spitfire Breed’ which is shown here often on Discovery Wings.

Btw, If you want some good incockpit footage from a 109, then get the ‘Pilots Eye’ video which was filmed using Black 6 and hosted by Cliff Spink.

Cheers

Paul

If we are going to be pedantic, then I’m off down the airfield. The real thing is so much easier than Microsoft FS 2000! DazDaMan asked a simple question, and I tried to answer it in a simple way, without resorting to test Pilot speak. I’m sure he doesn’t give a hoot if the wing section is symetrical or not – he’s attempting it on Microsoft FS, which as sure as hell isn’t anything like the real thing, despite what the PC anoraks will tell you.

If I were going to be pedantic I’d point out that actually he doesn’t say it’s MS FS2000!

Anyway, the current version is FS2004. :rolleyes:

PC anoraks eh?

Maybe they would say that.

But not those who know about flight sims. I think you’d find they would say that these days it comes pretty darn close! 😉

Sarcasm aside, maybe we should continue this discussion in the Flight Sim forum. :diablo:

Cheers

Paul

Thanks chaps.

I wasn’t sure if they were going to be at this years event as it was not down on the OMFC display calendar the last time I looked. :confused:

But I guess they have become an important part of the event since it started in 1998. 🙂

Cheers

Paul