Les Chevaliers du ciel… In Norway it`s called “Sky Fighters”.
That`s one ****ty movie, if you ask me:mad:
Please post some blockbuster movie titles worth seeing, if anyone have
someone in their mind:) The only good fightermovie I`ve seen has to be
“Topgun”. A bit unrealistic, but a lot of entertainment!!

Thats not F-15Es empty weight but take-off weight of an F-15C 😉
Its about 14,6 tons without and 16,5 tons with CFTs. Thats operating weight as can be found here: http://www.f-15estrikeeagle.com.
The Super Hornet with 13,8 is only 800kg short of the F-15E and thats for the single seater. Add a few hundred kg of weight and subtract a few hundred kg of fuel for the F.
Dry thrust is combarable for both engines.

Very important for Australia is range. Here the F-15E is clearly the winner. Unfortunately, the F-111 has never seen a real successor. Maybe the FB-22/23 or something like that will be one, but for now the F-15E is closest. Second is the F-35 and third F-22. The Lightning actually outranges the Raptor.
Last option is the Super Hornet of course. 🙂
Forget the SH and go for Strike Eagle.

Could you post the range figures you have on the Strike Eagle, SH, JSF, and Raptor??

I would like to put some question-marks behind the range figures. The F-15 has always been one of the best fighters when it comes to range. If those figures are made up from estimated calculation, they are definitive wrong.

Its included in the ones we aren’t supposed to talk about here 🙂

WHY? Nor Israel or Sweden are large nations (6/8 mill inhabitants)… Bangladesh? Don’t know, but training is definitive one of the most important aspects!

If Norway choose JSF to be our future fighter, this would be my pick :

Type: F-35A
Engines: GE F-136
Wing: Larger Navalbased
Landing Gear: Navalbased
GUN: Internal Gun
Refueling System: International Drogue Type
Weapons: IRIS-T, Meteor, Stormshadow, JDAM, Kongsberg NSM,
PavewayII/IV, AGM-65D, AGM Armiger, some new type clusterbombs?, UGB`s,
Litening III pod:)

How about Israel. Modern fighters, good weapons and training. And those nasty EW-suites everyone wish they had. Sweden also got one of the better airforces…

I’ll think they best of choosing the cheapest deal. Tought Gripen would be better than some old F16MLU in the longer run.

Anyone who has some new information of the Gripen N? All I’ve read is: They are dubbeling the range, new engine with 40% more power, satellit com, AESA, upgraded weaponsystems, and countermeasures, and maybe new hardpoints design.