Some Mancunian whingers were on the wireless this morning complaining that the Boddingtons brewery is about to be closed.

Down here in the East we get some filthy stuff dispensed from pressure taps that goes by this name.

Is that it, or do they make proper beer too?

Moggy

Moggy
I tend to think that the Boddingtons that one tends to see in southern pubs and therefore intended for soft southern b*st*rds is brewed in Burton upon Trent where most of the poor quality mass market stuff is turned out.
I think there may still be a small amount brewed in Manchester for the locals as dodrums says.
Cheers
Andy
PS I first heard the term ‘soft southern b*st*rd, when I spent a cheery winter once working in Manchester.
A carpenter working where I worked told me that’s what I was every morning–just in case I forgot. 🙂 🙂 😉 🙂 🙂

As I said previously, you are all ill-informed and know nothing about the Project to return Concorde to flight. If you had a positive and patriotic British bone in your body you would be supporting the campaign.
You are totally opposed to a return to flight of Concorde.
If am wrong, please do the honourable thing and support the team at http://www.save-concorde.co.uk
Best regards,
Steve
FIGHT FOR FLIGHT UK

Please don’t instruct me about patriotism and my duty to my country. If you do we’ll fall out and you won’t enjoy that.
So far apart from bluster you haven’t answered a single question.
Now’s your chance……..
You can write as much as you like here………….
Next post please.

Dear Ashtonvillageuk
Call me a cynic by all means but how do you intend to fund this project?
Despite what you seem to assume about us here there is some experience among us regarding aviation and it’s many foibles and aviation is usually about money–if you ain’t got it you ain’t flying.
Now you might be sitting on a major corporate sponsor who’s willing to stump up the several million you need, I don’t know that but where else are you going to get it?
On the other hand Mr Hiscock who you seem to enjoy insulting has got considerable experience of aircraft restoration and vintage aviation in general. You and your organisation would do well to listen to what people like him have to say.
And I’ll give you another bit of free advice, if every time in life you turn nasty when you hear something you don’t like you won’t get far!–either in aviation or any other business venture.
Yours Sincerly
Andy Jones

As I read the opening post in this thread I am reminded of a famous quote by Winston Churchill, “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”. I believe we have enough on our plate trying to educate the average American voter, let alone trying to placate an entire world population.

America at the dawn of the 21st century finds herself as the most powerful and influential nation on the planet. Yet barely 60 years ago we were still a nation with a strong sense of isolationism. Americans had a deep desire not to get involved in the European conflict of WWI, but eventually we were pushed into war. Again, in 1941 America tried to remain neutral, even as Japan slaughtered millions in China, and Hitler and Mussolini conquered continental Europe. Only after being directly attacked by Japan did we enter the war. America did not even declare on Germany until after Hitler, siding with the Japanese, declared war on the US.

After the war, with Great Britain’s economy reeling from the staggering costs of a second world war they could not afford, it fell to the United States to develop the Marshall Plan to rebuild war ravaged Europe. In Japan a similar effort was underway, with the goal not to conquer and subjugate, but to restore and stabilize.

Without going through an additional history lesson of the later 20th century let me just say that if America had wanted to build empire over the last 50 years, she could have done it. Instead America has looked to the rest of the world to join with us and build peaceful and profitable relationships. But don’t forget that, as a sovereign nation, the United States government is in place to represent the best interests of the people of the United States. We are not the United Nations. So when the best interests of the United States are threatened by a two bit dictator who’s goal is hurt our people and our economy in any fashion, it is the responsibility of our leaders to act. George Bush did this in Iraq. He didn’t do it because he wanted to. In fact, all Saddam Hussein would have had to do to prevent war was be forthcoming about the state of his weapons programs. By “playing it close to the vest”, presumably so as to not loose face in the Arab world, he played a game of chicken with President Bush. Saddam lost. It appears that maybe Muammar al-Qaddafi in Libya has learned from this lesson, and is an example of what can be accomplished with constructive negotiations and economic sanctions.

And so, in the 21st century, America finds herself in the most undesirable position of being the world’s peacekeeper. The United Nations, unfortunately, is not willing to step up and relieve us of this burden, but rather is content to march down a road of appeasement, the likes of which have not been seen since Mr. Chamberlain waved that most famous little piece of paper around after his meeting in Munich. It is not a position that many Americans particularly enjoy, for it is expensive in both money and men, but we realize that for now it is necessary.

Americans will vote next Tuesday for the man that best represents their vision for peace and prosperity. Whichever candidate wins will have little impact for the rest of the world, as both these men are strong, patriotic leaders who will fearlessly defend the United States from threats both domestic and international. In the post 9/11 world the United States is not going to wait around to be attacked again. Whoever is President of the US is going to wage a worldwide war on terrorism. That war will take many shapes and guises, and one victim will be the previous “open arms” borders of the United States. The international community should not fear a rise in religious fundamentalism in the US, for it is not occurring. What is occurring is a return to a desire for isolationism that could have a profound effect on the world stage for the next generation.

Great Journalism Patty.
Of course, on principle I disagree with all of it.
Which paper did you copy it from??
😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 😉 😉 😉 🙂
Cheers
Andy
PS I’ve made two posts on general and now I’m leaving.

Great Pictures Mark.
The Panther is a great looking machine and the film was a great film.
Filmed on the USS Oriskany.
Cheers
Andy

I think I bought the same one (yes, I own up!!) and felt a bit conned because the “extra footage” is stuck in as deleted scenes on the extras disks! 😡

Daz if you’ve got money to waste in future please just pop it in an envelope to me.
I would suggest sending it to the Melvis Hancock ‘Rearwin to the Skies’ fund but I’d spend it much more wisely in the pub.
Cheers
Andy 😀 😀 😉 😉 😀 😀

Not a bad idea – the girls can watch the first night with all the sop and over-romantic bull that was obviously meant to draw in the teenage girl audience, the guys can watch the second installment on Tuesday with all the awesome flying and real action 🙂

Dave
buy, borrow or steal a copy of Tora Tora Tora and watch that tomorrow or Tuesday night–don’t waste your time with cr*p.

Probably the worst war film since Battle of the Bulge.
Although there may be others.
Cheers
Andy

Cheers Andy. Yes, I agree that it was probably the helmet that caused premature hair loss. Wearing a hat all the time is not good, and of course they had no shampoo and little soap, etc, so that can’t have helped the folacles.

Also they went bright yellow-orange all over in hue due to the anti-malaria tablets. A lady I know told me her husband stayed that colour for years after the war, and she hated it because the colour seaped out of the skin’s pores onto bedsheets and white shirts. Most of them ended up contracting Malaria in the end too, it didn’t really help. Did they have to take such tablets in the desert or Med area?

They did have anti-malaria tablets I think. My Dad picked up Malaria pretty bad in The Po Valley in Northern Italy in 1945. He was hospitalised with it for a while.
He suffered with it for several years after he got home too. I have a vague recolection of him having it but my elder sister remembers it vividly. Mum used to have every blanket in the house chucked over him to try and stop him shivering.
It didn’t do him any permanent harm though–he still about aged 82, still driving, very fast.
He worked until he was 79–he likes meeting people. I wonder if our generstion will be as durable.
Cheers
Andy