The fly away price I’ve got from a top executive at dassault a few years ago is around 55M€-60M€ depending on the version. That’s probably the most precise figure as you never know how those costs calculation are made when reported in the GAO or cours des comptes etc which is often “all inclusive”.

Now there is nothing legal or illegal…That’s a matter of what one is willing to pay or not. I doubt there is a single law foundation to raise a case. Eurofighter Gmbh can’t do anything about that if true.

Then the canard enchainé is a well known french news paper which is famous for digging “affairs”. That being said they are often to quick and most cases fades away. I doubt that this polemic will rise. especially when they are mixing “all inclusive costs “with years decades of R&D with the price the indian will get which is not very serious.

Besides in Switzerland rafale offer was cheaper even with the F3+ standard. With the revised bid it was only 6% more expensive per unit than the gripen.

Some should understand that this is a free forum…As long as it remains on topic and with a minimum courtesy. If you don’t like the tone there is nothing we can do for you.

As far as the gripen choice is concerned there is currently a controversy in Switzerland so it is perfectly legitimate to discuss this point. Like it or not.

As far as the respective performances are concerned please refer to the evaluation and comments from Mauer and Gygax that told themselves that you cannot always afford the best plane.

Thats pretty sure when you start from the gripen C/D.

That being said they must have given points for the 2015 version in the second phase. The first phase should have been pretty stringent. But hey ! they praised rafale PESA…So not even the AESA rafale was considered in the first stage.

Funny that we had the same feeling/thoughts with nic…I didn’t read him before.

I would like to tend a mirror to those complaining…It seems it is their only way to avoid coming with arguments.

Lets not be hypocrite : the charm of this forum is to debate one aircraft vs another etc and going in those rents. What I like here is that you can do so without insulting like on the WAAF. All in all passionate discussion but with a minimum of courtesy.

If you don’t like debates you can go in a “news” forum like those on mp which are excellent in their own category or your own aircraft forum to be sure to remain with people with the same opinion as you.

Some seems so disappointed that even when you come with some “material” like articles they are complaining and accusing you about all villeny.

Let’s face it : the news is hot currently with MMRCA and switzerland. So it is perfectly normal that the temperature rises a little bit in this forum. I must say I don’t really like the attitude of those who want to stand above the crowd and give good and bad point and tell others how to behave…As long as their is no insults there is nothing to worry about : this is just internet ! I notice that this trend have gone up sharply from those who are falling short of arguments because the news does not fit their view.

UAE rafales seems to be in the pipe…

Rafale fighter deal ‘is back on’
The National UAE, feb 6

Talks were believed to have stalled last year when Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, said the planes’ French maker, Dassault Aviation, had proposed “uncompetitive and impractical” terms.

But Maj Gen Khalid Al Buainnain, former commander of the Air Force and Air Defence, said: “Discussions never stopped.”

Gen Al Buainnain, is also chairman of Baynuna Group, an Abu Dhabi company that has a joint venture with Dassault to “transfer technology know-how, services and products” in the UAE and abroad.

“The technical and financial and contractual discussions have been completely finished. We’re … working out how we can smooth out this contract.

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/rafale-fighter-deal-is-back-on