Russian Defense Ministry releases footage of airstrikes at IS operational staff in Syria
what kind if a weapon is that ??!!
It is of course entirely possibly that the Russian strikes against ISIS are actually just going to be strikes against any and all of the rebels (given that the Russians are only backing one side here and confusion is their modus operandi).
Thats what i’m saying.
it looks like 4 wheels only to me.
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Easy come. Easy go. Jihadists fired Grads at that base. Sooner or later that airport is going to be razed to the ground.
It only shows how limited their capability is and limited number of Grads that they have. This is their only chance to hit the base. Now or never. So they fired two or three hitting the fields. Russians are going to level anything within the range starting NOW>
Don’t forget, Russians don’t have to worry about choosing who to fire at towards the east. They can level anything that moves on 4 wheels.
Every USA built humvee, every single car, bus, or truck will be bombed, unlike in USA and coalition case. That makes a big difference.
Not to play devils advocate here, well ok I am. But exactly how will a few hellducks assure Assad’s stability when there has been hundreds of aircraft from the US, several Gulf nations, etc. bombing ISIS and a few RuAF aircraft going to save the day for Assad? There is nothing about the US being super pissed. Moreover, there are no “safe” rebels.
I disagree. Mainly because USA has been bombing there while indirectly trying to help destroy Assad, and not try to save him from ISIS.
There are 32 Russian bombers delivered very close to the front lines in less than a week. We don’t know how much more are coming, but 32 is already a lot considering everything. This means they will be seriously supported on the ground with artillery and more tanks buildup to follow. Some T-90s are already in place.
Secondly, No one is going to invade this territory as long as Russians troops and advanced weapons are there. So how exactly is Assad going to get overrun now. He is not. His butt is safe and he is dancing for the first time in years!!
Yes USA and its coalition has been bombing with little success (mainly preventing worse than it is now from happening).
A lot has to do with those planes having to fly all the way there and find little or no targets to strike. I mean results are pretty obvious. 12 months of bombing and ISIS has has grown and has not lost any significant territory?
Russians, if they decide to go into offensive can actually retake land with Assad’s army and level ISIS to the ground with coordinated bombardment. This bombardment will be brutal in my opinion, with potentially lots of collateral damage. They don’t have this problem where they have to worry who they are helping by bombing, so they will have a lot easier time having ISIS on the run.
There is no reason to believe that Russians are not already bringing major artillery, tanks, and multiple missile launchers to assure enough force is there.
Well, Russians are going to bomb everyone aside from Kurds and Assad’s forces helping them regain momentum and territory.
USA and coalition is going to continue spending billions of $$ on bombing ISIS while they keep loosing key towns and territory to the same group. It must be real high moral in US Airforce after 12 months of most powerful airforce in the world actively bombing while not making any apparent effect. But, job is a job, so they go and do what they do.
Turkey is going to continue bombing Kurds and when they **** off international community bit too much, they’ll drop few bombs on ISIL positions as well to look better on news pages.
Assad’s butt is safe now as long as Hellducks are there.
So basically USA is super pissed more than ever, loosing territory in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq. Not only that their strategy didn’t work so far while costing billions in the last 1 year alone, but Turkey is bombing Kurds they are supporting in exchange for use of their airbases. And now Russians are moving their rooks and bishops to bomb who ever the heck they want.
Russian presence there now weakens USA influence in this region drastically. That fact everyone understands in the world.
What is this mobile system in the background to the right? Reminds me of Patriot SA battery. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5656/21788874981_e6b2d6c911_o.jpg
I think that West should be smart enough to realize by now that Iran is the only stable not radical LARGE country in the region. Yes they have many laws to fix and update but in my opinion they are on a decent path to do so in comparison to all their neighbors! Women have way more civil rights there than in UAE.
That being said, you cannot just go ahead and preemptively bomb the hell out of the LARGE country like that and hope the WORLD will like it because Iran wants to get defensive weapons.
They are not actually threatening anyone in the region, nor do they historically have interest to invade anyone now. Other than retaliation in case of an attack. Correct me if I’m wrong please.
But please don’t give me those twisted quotes ranging from “Israel should not exist” aka should be whiped out. All that is as good as Mr Trump saying USA can’t have any more of Mexicans coming into the USA because they are rapists. BS that only helps west media.
If anything, they are investing their own BUTTS to fight ISIL on the ground.
Honestly, I doubt that in any case Su-30s will change anything in the next few years, unless they go all out with structure and numbers like China did. They cannot even begin that even with all the sanctions lifted. For the next few years it might be few S300s and six SU-30 if they get lucky. Yeah, a real game changer.
Their best protection is all i wrote above and the world will not accept preemptive attack on such large sovereign country after Mr Bush’s Iraq.
No disrespect to anyone, although i disagree with some, and many will disagree with me.
S300/400s for everyone,. I say !!!!
Turkey is openly hostile to Syrian regime and Israel is known to bombard them occasionally so some deterrence can’t hurt.
good point.
is there any more possible evidence so far that they deployed any s300s at all though?
Oh god!
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photoshop right?!.. or i’m totally confused tonight :very_drunk:
Yeh, Blah is all we can say today pretty much.
I’m also thinking what the hell was Putin thinking 12 months ago! Was he giving up on Assad and Syria all together, or was he planning this move knowing nothing much will change despite USAF and coalition bombing for a year, so he will wait for the right moment to step in and look good on the news 🙂
Anyhow,
I’m waiting to hear now about those Mig-29M2 finally coming. Supposedly they were built and ready for delivery couple years ago for SAAF and were even considered to be sold to Serbian AF.Not sure if that was disputed later.
This thread started almost innocently, but is about to explode and take over. The Last time I remember something like this happened on this forum was when first PAK-FA T-50 took off !!!
My opinion is that this is quite a chess move by Russia perfectly timed. Even though they cant possibly afford military deployment and intervention on foreign soil ala USA.
Tactically, all the pieces are falling into their favor now.
Last time I can remember Netanyahu came running to Russia so quickly was when They signed a deal with Iran for S300. That means serious business. Thats even beyond what USA can say for sure what went on behind those doors 🙂
Russia is going to gain a lot with this military deployment. If they don’t miscalculate in the long run!
They don’t even need to fly a single bombing mission for a long while in my opinion. Just the deployment and presence and its potential is a MAJOR CHESS MOVE!
Now everyone wants to talk to them and deal new cards 🙂
Not to mention diverting pressure from conflict in Ukraine.
Assad is now safe for some time from everyone! That’s another fact!. Turkey, USA, and many others on the ground there are not happy.
I’m personally just happy to see Russian hardware hopefully beating down on ISIL.
CNN – F-35 tests fell short, Pentagon report says:
Trials aboard a Navy warship in May did not prove the F-35B is ready for combat, a Pentagon report says
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/politics/f-35-report-question-readiness/index.html
Serbian media are reporting, via Israeli news outlet Ynet, that Russian troops and aircraft have begun arriving in Syria to begin Russia’s intervention against ISIS. Still too early to tell if this is bogus news but I thought I’d post it anyway.
I saw it too, but its just Serbian news reporting from Israeli “Yedioth Ahronoth” article that has little to do with reality. Just shows how little twists in reality, and a false title can create false Breaking NEWS story.
It even states in it that Syria has received 6 Mig-31s which are at the Damasks airbase to support government’s fight against ISIS :-))
I don’t understand why they do this. So many people read this crap today and are even arguing about this false news report on bunch of places.