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  • in reply to: Some aircraft wrecks around Moray, Scotland #1120242
    Stuart H
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    Al and I found nothing – must have trodden on it. Oh well, back for another look sometime, hopefully with some clues from Oskar.

    in reply to: Some aircraft wrecks around Moray, Scotland #1137044
    Stuart H
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    There are a couple of Valentine tanks in Findhorn bay. Apparently whilst practising for the Normandy landings it was thought that flotation rings and propellors would be a good idea.

    One of the tanks is lying in 15 metres of water and looks as if someone just parked it there. Perhaps one was breaking up in shallow water?

    in reply to: Some aircraft wrecks around Moray, Scotland #1137594
    Stuart H
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    Ben Aigen Whitley

    Al and I found something which might be of interest.

    Elliott, of the Whitley_project was visiting this area to conduct the ultimately disappointing Quarrywood excavation – see http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=100641

    Anyway, whilst he was here we decided to investigate the crash site of Whitley P5006 – see http://www.griffon.clara.net/19/19otu_aircraft_master.htm

    A sister of one of the crash victims had given him a map reference for the site, and had asked if Elliott could take some pictures of the cairn on top of the hill, which she said she’d helped to build with her father.

    After scrambling around in a treacherous ravine, Elliott found a couple of aircraft panels, which he left in situ. We then climbed the hill and took some photos of the cairn. We didn’t find the actual crash site though.

    A few days later, Al and I decided to investigate, and using Google Earth and the photo on the 19 OTU website taken from the crash site, we worked out roughly where the site was. At the time of the photo, 1945, the hill was bare. Now it’s a forestry plantation. Referencing the view from the crash site photo was difficult, as we couldn’t see the view for the trees.

    After a search in the forest, around the location we’d worked out, we found a jumble of rocks and couple of pieces of wreckage. The rocks and the wreckage looked to us as if they’d been put there. See the photo below.

    http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/handshifterAl/BenAigenWhitleyCairn.jpg?t=1274943349

    We thought that this must have been the remains of the cairn built by the victims father in 1945, not the one on the peak, as the sister was only 3 years old at the time and cairns on the peaks of mountains are common. We cleaned off the moss and rebuilt the cairn as below.

    http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/handshifterAl/BenAigenWhitleyCairn2.jpg?t=1274943466

    This is the present day view from the same location as the 1945 photo:

    http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/handshifterAl/BenAigenWhitleyCairn5.jpg?t=1274943563

    I forwarded the photos above to Elliott, so he can pass them on along with this information to the crash victims sister.

    Other pics from the site:

    http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/handshifterAl/BenAigenWhitleyCairn4.jpg?t=1274943537

    http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/handshifterAl/BenAigenWhitleyCairn3.jpg?t=1274943501

    All photos courtesy of Al.

    I think I can speak for Al here too – it was satisfying to be able to add something to the story of this aircraft and its crew.

    in reply to: Elgin's Quarrywood aircraft scrap excavation #1138995
    Stuart H
    Participant

    I felt a bit of a prat, as I’d encouraged Elliott with the stories Al and I had heard. With the components found on the surface I was sure the dig would be very productive. However, as Elliott kindly said, it had to be crossed off the list.

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #1141869
    Stuart H
    Participant

    Hint taken Tim. Next time I’m in Elgin…

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #1141885
    Stuart H
    Participant

    Good call there, Plazz and Anon. 🙂

    in reply to: General Discussion #294797
    Stuart H
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    Honda 250
    T140 Bonneville
    Ducati 900GTS
    T120 Bonneville
    Suzuki GT750
    Yamaha 650
    Harley Sportster and Buell Cylcone currently.

    Car driver in the cold and wet now…

    in reply to: Any bikers out there? #1887037
    Stuart H
    Participant

    Honda 250
    T140 Bonneville
    Ducati 900GTS
    T120 Bonneville
    Suzuki GT750
    Yamaha 650
    Harley Sportster and Buell Cylcone currently.

    Car driver in the cold and wet now…

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #1143396
    Stuart H
    Participant

    Hi Tim – Have you ever read Catch-22?

    OOH! Clearing the yard! I bet there’s lots of interesting stuff underneath what we scrambled over. I’d be be pleased to be there and make the call about what’s scrap and what’s worth saving. I bet Al would feel the same. That would be a really interesting day out, and I suspect many subscribers to this thread will be overcome with envy.

    You’re welcome to stay in Rothes if you can make it for the big day. Better to put the Premier Inn bill towards the scrap price of aluminium alloy!

    Do you, like me, get the impression that the owner appreciates that his yard contains some worthwhile history? On the other hand, from his point of view, lots of alloy is lots of money….

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #1144996
    Stuart H
    Participant

    Scrapyard Status

    Apparently, this yard was abandoned by the owners due to new legislation some years ago. Apart from the aircraft parts, many tons of ferrous scrap have been left there. Parts of the ground are soaked with contaminants too. To remove the scrap would involve the local council, SEPA, and various other official bodies with an interest in expensive contaminated land reclamation.

    It would appear that the owner is leaving it as is, hoping it’ll be forgotten, to prevent any official bodies becoming involved in a task that could be very expensive.

    He won’t sell, or otherwise allow the removal or disposal of material from the site…

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #1145008
    Stuart H
    Participant

    Sea Venom – you’re right. Don’t know where I got the Lightning idea from. There were quite a few Sea Venoms scrapped at that location and I can’t think of any other Lightning parts that were in the yard.

    Corrections and ideas are always welcome.

    Anybody got ideas about the tail section shown above, and in Al’s earlier pic?

    in reply to: Elgin scrapyard revisited #1145258
    Stuart H
    Participant

    http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/Stuart_H/published/tail.jpg?t=1274525989

    Tail cone – Ballioll? SCimitar? – See Als earlier photo for a different view.

    http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/Stuart_H/published/Lightning.jpg?t=1274526055

    Lightning mainwheel?

    http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/Stuart_H/published/jag2.jpg?t=1274526111

    Jaguar jet efflux?

    http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/Stuart_H/published/jag1.jpg?t=1274526266

    Jaguar jet efflux again?

    A native, possibly Stig of the Dump’s grandad, took an interest as Whitley_Project, Max, lankytim and I explored the yard. We were warned off, but managed to convince him we weren’t going to burn down the yard, slice ourselves to bits or steal any treasure.

    in reply to: General Discussion #299542
    Stuart H
    Participant

    “Similarly, half a dozen nutters with a bag of fertiliser have managed to turn the justice system upside down. They didn’t vote either. They made it happen all by themselves.”

    That’s no way to talk about the National farmers union…….

    Lucky I didn’t say hydrogen peroxide. I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of militant hairdressers.

    in reply to: Police Discover Car Bomb in Times Square #1890597
    Stuart H
    Participant

    “Similarly, half a dozen nutters with a bag of fertiliser have managed to turn the justice system upside down. They didn’t vote either. They made it happen all by themselves.”

    That’s no way to talk about the National farmers union…….

    Lucky I didn’t say hydrogen peroxide. I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of militant hairdressers.

    in reply to: General Discussion #299674
    Stuart H
    Participant

    I’m getting off topic a bit, but agreed PMN, see my post #35 at http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=99291&page=2

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