The aircraft it was representing was EG-T ( MM417 ) of No 487 Sqn RNZAF, No. 140 wing, No. 2 Group, 2nd TAF.
Steve
Two excellent books I have enjoyed are:
A Willingness to die – Brian Kingcombe
Think like a bird – Alex Kimbell
So assuming a remake is on the cards…who would you want to see cast in it and playing which characters ? eg..
Guy Gibson – Hugh Grant
Sir Arthur Harris – Sir David Jason
Barnes Wallis – Stephen Fry
The dog could be renamed “Digger”
Personally I think the money would be better spent on depicting another of Bomber Commands exploits – sinking the Tirpitz for example.
Wasn’t it Stalin who said “It takes a brave man(or woman) not to be a hero in the Red Army”
I once heard a story whilst I was in the RAF of a pilot who forgot to fit his seat pins after landing away from base. He leapt from the cockpit catching the seat pan handle with his foot but the seat didn’t fire ! Investigation showed the handle hadn’t been connected and the fitter who had serviced the seat was put on a Tech Charge.
I can see now where the exhaust gasses leave their mark.
Many thanks to 92fis and all.
Steve
Due to dihedral I guess the outboard, outer exhausts are lower relative to the wing leading edge than the rest and the airflow takes the gases below the wing.
I think you are right, but does it leave a grey stain on the underside ?
The model by the way is 90″ span, has 4 x 5cc four stroke motors, fully functional u/c & flaps and will weigh around 15lbs.
Gotta be the ONR-CIA Rubber Airplane for me.
“Excuse me Sir, we’ve blown up your aeroplane for you”
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http://www.unrealaircraft.com/qbranch/rubber_onr_cia.php
I’m still not sure if this is a wind up :rolleyes:

Big models I must admit. I never saw the two flying together.
Photo from the LMA site.
There’s a few on google as well.

My personal thought are that I would want the most modern reliable methods used provided that they didn’t affect appearance or flying characterisics. Let’s face it, aircraft were subject to modifications and improvements throughout their life so why not employ modern methods in a restoration.
For example, if a particular carburettor caused engine failures should we use that type of carb for originality or employ a more modern reliable item? If an alloy spar was prone to fatigue cracking should we replicate it or improve it ? Should we rebuild an engine with moderm materials and closer tolerances etc or work to the original spec’n?
Interestingly, some years ago I used to overhaul propellers for the RAF Chipmunks. Because they were impossible to replace the original DH spec’s on minimum blade diameter and width were relaxed !
If they are what is claimed then surely there would be no shortage of buyers and no need to sell on ebay ?
Does anyone know the people who have authenticated them ?
I think the wooden box bit was a myth. He was my Wg Cdr at Halton in the 70’s and when he told us the story he said the pins were fitted to the seat, the canopy was removed and he was wearing ear defenders. I’ve just listened to an interview where he retells the story and it was indeed a ‘bang seat’ made ‘safe for servicing’.
Would this have been Beagle 206 G-ASWJ (8449M)?
Rolls Royce owned this aircraft and it was on loan to Halton. Many, many years ago they agreed to donate it to the Midland Air Museum once Halton no longer had a good use for it. However the MoD kept thinking it was theirs and had to be constantly reminded it wasn’t!
Eventually MAM got it and, in turn, loaned it to Brunel Technical College, Bristol where it is still (I believe) fulfilling a useful life in training future aeronautical engineers
Roger Smith.
Yes, a Beagle it was. After I posted the words Beagle and Basset kept ringing in my head.
Nice to see these photo’s. I had a happy time at Halton in the late 70’s as a trainee. The JP’s were used for engine change practice, flight servicing, refuelling, ground running and marshalling training. The dual trade Appo’s got to work on the Gnats as the wing had to come off to facilitate an engine change. The Canberra was used for fuel flow test training. On the Argosy we learned ground running multi’s. With respect to getting Hunters up the road and into the workshops, if the Apprentices could steal a Whirlwind and get it up to the the parade square during the night then I don’t think the Hunters woud pose a problem – a Queen Mary perhaps?
I can also remember a twin engine light a/c on which we were taught propeller swinging but I can’t remember the type.
Thanks for sharing the photo’s.
Steve
What I really hate are films / dramas that portray non commisoned ranks, particularly low ranking aircraft mechanics as incompetent idiots.