Wessex and Whirlwinds had droop stops to prevent the blades hitting the tail when shutting down. Sometimes these would stick and if they couldn’t be freed off by spinning up the rotor one of the ground crew had to climb up and coax them back in with a broom handle.
Before radios it was done with hand signals at close quarter when in formation, as it was when radio silence had to be maintained. It is also possible that morse code may have been used but an Aldis lamp would have been too big and heavy for the a/c of the day.
Warping of the wingtip leading edge in place of ailerons ?
That’s nothing, same speed, same direction 😉 ! In the 80’s under command of Jim Upritchard it was proposed to do a nine ship formation flypast, this wasn’t given approval for a number of reasons but they did a two ship flypast with a third taking off and formating into the lead position of a vic as they went past.
Looks like all my spare time will go !
Look forward to it – great idea !
RAF got it’s first VC10’s direct from the factory in the early 60’s, but the remaining ex-BA super VC10 airframes went to the RAF when retired from BA service in 1982(?) and after conversion probably came into squadron service around 1987.
The RAF got it’s first VC10 K2 in 1983, K3’s ( super VC10 ) started to arrive late 1984 iirc. 101Sq reformed in April 1983 without any a/c. The Official reformation was in May 1984. I remember the day well as I lost my front teeth falling down the steps in front of the mess after the celebratory party 🙁
Steve
( ex 101 Sqn )
Weren’t there 4 Valiants kept in flying condition until 1968 ? wasn’t the one at Hendon in a Bomber Command flypast when the Command was disbanded ? If so this could give an unbroken record for Vickers.
Battler was a childhood hero ! In one story he flew a Spitfire back from France after the engine was shot clean off by German 88’s. All true stuff !
Excellent news. Are we ever likely to see one fly in the UK ?
I’ll be there, I have my Hurricane model on static display and got free tickets for the family.

605 Sqn Mk1 Hurricane
Thanks for the info guys.
Steve
Curious..what was it in the a/c that contained Mercury ?
The ball end is similar to the type used by the RAF hoists. They had a split collet which fitted the ball ( swaged end fitting ) and was held by a screw in collar to the adaptor in use for a given job. This adaptor could be a small or large clevise, a screw in lifting lug etc.
Am I right in thinking it was Alec Ingle’s kite at some point?
According to the book by Peter Vacher, Alec Ingle only flew this twice with 605, 12th & 17th Sept 1940. Peter informed me that Alec Ingle was flying V7599 UP-U when he was shot down but I’m not sure if that was his regular aircraft.
Steve
Think I read somewhere that the Americans used helicopter pilots initially for the Harriers, with disastrous results. Perhaps they had overlooked the fact that it is a fast jet when not hovering / pretending to be a helicopter.
Stuart
Whereas the RAF & Navy taught jet jocks to fly helicopters before conversion to Harriers – apparently they had a deep rooted fear of slowing down and stopping before they were on the ground 😀