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  • in reply to: KC767, KC330….what latest? #2499604
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    This should be fun….

    Tanker bid winner may not get all orders

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/351579_tanker16.html

    in reply to: RAAF F-35A vs F-35B vs F-35C? #2499876
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    The F-35C is a 9g aircraft just like the F-35A & F-35B! They are just limited to 7g during peacetime to extend there service life. All of those Carrier Landings and Take-Offs! So, if operated from landbases. It would be 9g capable as it sister models. Regardless, g alone hardly makes you case. As for who is better to judge “you” or Dr. Gates. I think everyone here already knows the answer!:p

    Well Gates certainly doesn’t. USAF the real experts don’t agree with him either. Not just the guy that spoke up the other day but respected air planners like Gen Deptula have already stated that the F-35 wasn’t made to go into the threat areas that F-22 can. Mostly because of super-cruise where that high speed from lets say a side shot crossing angle makes the distance/no-escape zone of the missile to get a shot questionable.

    Gates claiming… F-35 being roughly half the cost of an F-22, yeah right… less than 2 percent of the flight testing done. What business school did he go to? Then of course you have the dollar taking a rapid slide down to the peso as fast as it can go. This will ( and has already ) gotten interesting with the falling dollar value, where all the stuff from all of the worldwide JSF vendors is starting to get more expensive. Then the wheel turns even worse… government being government will slow down the buys if expense from the program gets higher. This in the long run will just make things worse. In the case of the USAF it is bad already as in 2006 they cut their annual JSF production slots from 110 down to 48 when they saw cost growth and extended out production arrivals all the way to 2035-38. Please tell me that anyone knows what funds congress will authorize for what weapon 20 years from now. No one does. It makes great eyewash for a briefing though. USAF is now trying to get the production slots but here is the other rub. JSF production efficiency is yet to be proven. Some are already worried about it having problems similar to the A380 and 787. A good comparison because those two depend on a lot of worldwide vendors also. Here are some fun comments from the other day on that:

    The biggest challenge in the program today is manufacture, Davis said. “I’m worried about getting the manufacturing lines down the learning curves,” he told the conference. The JSF is showing some of the problems that have afflicted the Airbus A380 and Boeing 787 programs (although no major delays are manifest yet). Work is being performed out of sequence – for instance, many of 650 brackets in the wing are currently being installed after the wing has been mated to the body. Behind such problems are issues such as “requirements received late to schedule” – that is, by the time the design of a part has been finalized it is too late to ramp up production as planned.

    Davis is also concerned about the complex integrated subsystems on the JSF, in which separate auxiliary, secondary and emergency power systems and environmental control are packaged into a single subsystem. “We’re working closely with them”, he says.

    A bigger potential problem was raised by Lt Gen Raymond Johns, USAF deputy chief of staff for strategic plans and programs: the USAF won’t be able to afford its planned 110 JSFs a year under its projected total obligational authority (TOA). F-16s, he said, “will be coming out of the force at a rate of 100 a year from 2014. With our TOA, we can buy 48 JSFs per year, and the fighter force declines to 1400 aircraft.”

    Currently, JSF plans call for the US total buy to reach 130 aircraft in 2015, with deliveries in 2017. The USAF does not have an internal solution to the problem, which would almost halve US purchases of the JSF in the peak production years with consequent effects on the production cost. “I can’t take more people out,” Johns said, “because I’m playing football with ten players as it is, and we don’t know where to go with infrastructure. It’s a question of the right level of gross domestic product to go to defense.”

    http://tinyurl.com/2eqnz8

    There are a lot of things to be proven on the JSF program.

    in reply to: RAAF F-35A vs F-35B vs F-35C? #2499892
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    I would forget the Super Hornets and go with 100 F-35A’s or better yet F-35C’s for the RAAF and 25 more F-35B’s for the RAN……….:diablo:

    I point I would add at this stage. The current and highly respect US Secretary of Defence “Dr. Gates”. Recently, stated the reason why the US wants to procede with the F-35 and not order more F-22’s (i.e. past 183). Is because the extraordinary closeness in performance between the two! This is of course from a man that has more access to each design than anyone on the planet! Which, says alot in my opinion………….:D

    Gates is temporary help from industry. So is England.Nuff said there. The 380 plus F-22s are built on an actual plan, to fill out 10 AEFs. Gates also claimed the other day that JSF would cost $77 million each? Where is he going to get those jets at that price? Fantasyland? The idea that more F-22s aren’t needed is rich, considering the F-22 will win air wars in a theater like nobody’s business. As for the bombing stuff: After big threats ( enemy aircraft and large area SAMS ) of an IADS are down I don’t need a stealth aircraft. So really the USAF could save a lot of money by getting the 380 some F-22s and not get JSF at all. JSFs ability to go into a S-300, S-400 threat ( what it will be facing in the next 30 years ) should be interesting as I don’t think it can hack it. Sorry, I’d rather have an F-22 defending a theater than F-35s. Since USAF decision making on airframe procurement went bye-bye a long time ago there probably is no hope. The weirdo Murtha(D) is one of the few F-22 allies. And small number of other politicos. Hard times ahead in the new admin.

    Think of all the things USAF has to recap: New tankers, new C-130s, more C-17s, full bore on C-5 upgrades, new long range bomber, new C2ISR (E10), fighter recap… the only bright spot is A-10s can be refirbed forever.

    F-22s and new build F-16s. Most USAF AEFs can be done with F-16s. But that makes way too much sense.

    As for the CV model F-35 for RAAF service, it is a 7g jet vs. the 9g of the F-35 CTOL. Then of course the CTOL will be cheaper and has an internal gun. Then of course the facts. CV isn’t in the export plan.

    As for the 100 JSFs you are looking at 72 or so in the first phases to get the classic Hornets replaced. And the rest later. My money is that assuming the program doesn’t cost blow out any more that you may see the first part happen with the classic Hornets replaced at the 72 or so JSFs level and then with the cost of the jet being so much ( i.e. not affordable ) That something else will replace the soon to be occupied Super Hornet slots years from now. I think 100 JSFs is a reach given the cost growth of JSF. You are looking at well over $A16 billion including inflation for the whole program if they go with 100. Good luck.

    in reply to: General Discussion #349954
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    The U.S. in their righteous might should have invaded Australia over this. Operation: Foster’s Freedom.

    in reply to: Australia's Shame #1916041
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    The U.S. in their righteous might should have invaded Australia over this. Operation: Foster’s Freedom.

    in reply to: Combat radius of Su-35BM #2501131
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    deleted…wrong thread…

    in reply to: Rafale news II : we go on #2501134
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    God bless Wikipedia. 😀
    I couldn’t understand without it. 😀 😉

    🙂 😀

    in reply to: General Discussion #351028
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    Liked him in The French Connection.

    in reply to: Roy Scheider has paased away #1916592
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    Liked him in The French Connection.

    in reply to: General Discussion #351242
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    Saw the latest Will Smith movie: “I am Legend” in the theater.

    I wouldn’t run out to see it. It isn’t really bad, but not on par with I Robot. Just an average action movie.

    in reply to: The Last Film You Saw…. 2!!! #1916699
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    Saw the latest Will Smith movie: “I am Legend” in the theater.

    I wouldn’t run out to see it. It isn’t really bad, but not on par with I Robot. Just an average action movie.

    in reply to: General Discussion #351245
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    I think religion has it’s place as long as it is kept private and doesn’t interfere with other peoples lives.

    I agree with what this guy has to say on the topic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

    in reply to: Sharia Law in the UK #1916702
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    I think religion has it’s place as long as it is kept private and doesn’t interfere with other peoples lives.

    I agree with what this guy has to say on the topic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

    in reply to: RAAF F-35A vs F-35B vs F-35C? #2503054
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    Really, depends the source………………Yet, the F-35C has a more efficent wing with higher lift and over “1,125 lbs” more of fuel! So, do really believe this source is correct in stating the F-35C only has 10 more miles in range??? Personally, I highly doubt that………..The only one that really know is Lockheed Martin and they are not saying. Except to tell us that the F-35C has a larger wing and more fuel. I would also remind everyone that Lockheed Martin and many other sources always quote the naval variant as having more range. I hardly believe they would make such a claim with 10 miles difference! Make up your own mind…….:rolleyes:

    It’s called weight. Unless the STOVL does something weird, CV is the heaviest.

    in reply to: F-35 in RAF service #2503119
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    How about The F-35 Knife?

    The MOD loves cutting things. 😀 :dev2:

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