Really?! What SAM-systems did China buy and produce?
I get the impression, you have not realized, what that struggle was about at first. At least you have realized, that you have to blame US-companies at first.
Share-holder value rules over national intrests.
The multi-role F-35 as a ‘Jack of all trades’ is a compromise from the start.
Look into the different Flanker-variants. It is the customer, which gives the money and has to be fullfilled his demands at first.
Oh don’t worry, there is plenty to blame on U.S. corporate welfare clowns. However I find it sickly amusing that we would: Push yet more weaps into the M.E. and within a number of years any tech advantage rolled into the JSF will be effectively compromised.
hi there
i was reading in an R.A.F Magazine i bought that the Joint strike Fighter is going to replace the harrier gr3/4 and Tornado Gr4s i think that is stupid because the harrier and Tornado have been in the service for along time and they seem to be getting rid of to many aircraft
what are your Oppinions?
Thanks
Nathan
Look at M.O.D.’s track record. They are more interested in cutting things than adding.
Elp, the “Chicoms” as you call the Chinese so derisively, do not need Israel to access America’s latest technology.
I guess that just wasn’t so with Patriot and a number of other things now was it?
The JSF is going to be one big compromise without Israel anyway. Reason number 5 that it is a bad idea. Exporting L.O. tech is dumb.
Don’t forget also that not all the F-22s have to illuminate. The ones that do can hand off their detections to the team including back to the AWACs. Also the latest versions of the AMRAAM are specifically tweaked to work with the methods they use. And of course, we don’t have all the facts available as their playbook is classified on how this whole lash-up works. Strengths, weakness, etc. Finally that this aircraft dictates how the air battle will be fought. Legacy jets, unless better sensor methods show up, are seriously outmatched.
Cool. That means the Chicoms will have a knockoff of the JSF soon after that.
The M-17 was the single-engined jet originally intended to blow up balloons (most amusing mission for a purpose-built fast-jet, anyone? 😀 ). It evolved into the recon jet, and later into the twin-engined M-55.
Put that in your daily threat briefing on the Orbat just to see if anyone is awake. :p
So you dont blaming your lobbist system but Israel? You do have money for $400bln in Iraq, and do not for help who need this? How american.
Look at the playbook. Part of the reason we are in Iraq is that among other things, it’s good for Israel. If we bomb Iran, part of it will be because it’s good for Israel. etc etc. etc. We make a nice team. We listen very well to your lobbyists and not so well to others.
As for Iraq, a bunch of it isn’t our money. Run the numbers. Most of it is borrowed. A spendthrift congress and administration. Another dumb move we do. As long as China and others prop up our system and let us run up the credit card and we buy enless crap from Walmart, we are good to go. Borrow, spend, borrow, spend. All while being on endless expeditionary warfare since Desert Storm. We don’t need anymore C-17s yet congress is bought and payed for with lobby money therefore they authorize buying more. Etc etc etc. And other junk like JSF, Stryker, V-22 etc. So don’t worry. You are only one small part of the problem.
1. Palestine government got about $1bln EVERY year till HAMAS was elected (not to mention charity money), so I dont care if you have money to enrich local Arafats. You did it before.
2. You didnt read ELP post, didnt you? We discussed existing political system in US, particulary lobbists system – government doing what said them biggest money holders. He is blaming Israel about it. I think its not right. Israel helped to organize 13 african armies and Singapour army too. We are sending our rescue teams and mobile hospitals to every disaster area in the world (beside of those who dont want to: islamic radicalists usually – they prefer people will die but not rescued by jews). For free. Because we are good guys and not dancing joydance after 9/11 like Pals
You have to be smoking crack if you think it makes sense to send more weapons to the M.E. You forgot to add bleeding tech to China etc. We help out Israel and by doing so put our own troops in the Pacific at risk. So yeah we agree on one thing. It isn’t all Israels fault. We have congress people that need to be charged with treason.
Need a new generation personnel system first. Good luck.
Ah… no.
Did Israel finance Bush’s campaign?
Sure lobbying exists, but what makes the Israeli lobbying different than, say, the British lobbying? what makes it, in your mind, being able to effectively control the US?
If you can’t see the difference you are blind. Israel gets JDAM kits as an almost automatic free pass. Egypt wants the Harpoon and all the Israeli lobbyists cry that it is wrong. Not too even.
A lobbyist gets what they want more times than not because of cash. Many times they have more influence on some issues than the voting public. I will never see it put to a vote for the public: “Should the U.S. stop foreign aid, FMA, FMS etc.” I don’t have the money to pay off a congressman so my phone calls or letters hold no weight.
More worried about this….
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123021742
Hello CRM… where are you????? 😮
Yup. F-104 with a p-suit.
For land attack I would like to see one of the ships in a formation without any helos and just have Army MLRS trucks on the aft deck. :dev2: 😀
ELP – I think you are missing the main point of the article. It mentions the post-soviet problems with OEM support by way of introducing the maintainance indiginization effort. It then goes on to say that despite having the proper licenses, HAL is behind in getting things up and running. Worse, the work is taking much longer and is substandard. The finger seems to be pointing straight at HAL and not at MiG or ru-tech in general.
Yet other users have complained about RuTech support before. Not unheard of.
“Poor product support from the OEM was a recurring problem.”
Not the first time this has happened with RuTech vendors. This could make the MiG-29 die hard in the upcoming fighter buy for 125 airframes. MiG-29 engines have never been the picture of long flying hours between wrench work.
Those are long flow days at the depot for a fighter refirb. Here an F-15 is done in around 80 some days or so.
Part of the total solution also might be lack of sustainment funding. Even pencil neck accountants make mistakes and senior leaders believe them. Part of the low mission uptimes on B-1s were not because it was just a maintenance pig ( it always was ) but most of it was improper funding for maintenance sustainment. I would wager that someone’s calculations of the amount of money needed to maintenance_sustain their MiG-29 program over it’s service life…. is off. Look back in the administrative history and you will probably find a meeting where someone was patting themselves on the back showing how much money they “saved” in MiG-29 maintenance sustainment.
Proper funding for maintenance sustainment is a tricky thing. These jets don’t produce a “profit” like an airline. Yet some people like to show how much money they “save” in a program with the result being, not enough money spent on spare parts, proper equipment, and of course numerous important people/manpower issues, especially: proper training for all concerned. And excell spreadsheet can help or hurt any program. It is also a tool that can be poorly used.
I am sure you can maintenance sustain a MiG-29 properly. If anyone on the planet can do it, it would be India because they have the proper depot facilities in place and: experience in this stuff. Most likely what we have here is someone trying to be too “efficient” to show how much money they “saved” in the budget. And there are the results: Airplanes fall down and go “boom”.
The stories I could tell you of things like this I have seen in the USAF. :p