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  • in reply to: new F/A-22 unit cost #2658979
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    in reply to: General Discussion #382103
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    This is like the third person that can’t read. Yup You got it. Wrong part of the forum.

    in reply to: Cricket Pakistan India 2-1 #1966827
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    This is like the third person that can’t read. Yup You got it. Wrong part of the forum.

    in reply to: new F/A-22 unit cost #2660213
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    …the F/A-22 as a Cold War relic,….

    :::: cough ::::: bullsh!t :::: cough ::::

    in reply to: General Discussion #383156
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    Wrong Forum Area. Try General

    in reply to: Can we trash the Serbs anymore? #1967524
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    Wrong Forum Area. Try General

    in reply to: Are they stark staring mad? #2662106
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    Hmmm. Well, I can use Guard F-16s for most home defense nonsense.

    You put the push offensively with one squadron of F-22s forging ahead at night and what ever gets in their way dies. Sustained over a few days that = no air force of any significant threat.

    As for the B2, do a number count of how many 500lb JDAMs it can carry ( 80 ) or even more fearsome SDB or SDB Diamondback (each hitting their own target ). That, combined with a wave of cruise missiles, especially JASSM ( and -ER ) when focused is undeniable force. All that and not using a lot of air frames, or aircrew. Add the FB-22 to the picture above ( 30 SDB’s ( internal ) ) and it just gets better.

    in reply to: AASM #2662589
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    Thanks Glitter. Keep us posted on this very important program. My French is not good enough, so I depend on you and others.

    in reply to: Are they stark staring mad? #2662611
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    Originally posted by Srbin
    Dumbass why would you kille the JSF/F-35? USAF needs that more than the F-22 and many countries out there to replace the F-16.

    Lets look in detail what the USAF “needs”.

    Not many F/A-22’s are needed. The current number is fine.

    It is about spending money wisely on future technology and at the same time, not throwing out the baby with the bath water.

    A small continuous 24/7 force of F/A-22s, FB-22s, B-2s, UCAV-45 Lots of Tomahawk and lots of JAASM ( and ER ), The other “J”weapons, JSOW, and JDAM , JDAM Diamondback, SDB, SDB Diamondback: Will rape a large air force after the first day or two. Any fixed target that is worth hitting will be crushed without a lot of air frames. Once the enemy airforce and a chunk of the enemy AD network is done with, it’s bomb truck time and I can do that with anything, including F-16s. That isn’t all that expensive.

    The only thing left to under my idea is to get FB-22 and UCAV 45/47 up which don’t have the albatross hanging around their neck of being a multi-national program.

    Or, do the IMHO unwise thing: Spend an insane amount of money hoping every JSF partner doesn’t screw up the program and make it go even more over budget / schedule etc etc.

    There is so much mis-information on the JSF Program anyway which joe public from ( pick your country including here ) doesn’t understand. Contributing to the JSF program as a JSF Partner doesn’t gaurentee you work share. In order to get work share the vendor has to demonstrate “best vaule” for the component for the program. That is just one of many minefields in this deal that has to be delt with.

    Like I said, let other countries figure out their own defense needs. There is after all many non-U.S. things out there to buy, so it is hardly a big deal. I’m tired of FMS money pits. The oh so concerned tax watchers up top of this thread want to do something to help me: Stop wasting taxes on huge FMS deals.

    in reply to: Are they stark staring mad? #2662701
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    Expensive, is not having absolute air domination. Anyway the broken rifle, clueless crowd doesn’t have enough firepower on this one. It’s a done deal.

    Funny how they were asleep on the Super Hornet and V-22. If anything, you could cancel the JSF as this program is going to cost more in the long run. Especially since it isn’t very “Joint”. The supply chain management for the 3 versions and additional blocks should be interesting. I would rather kill the JSF and have a much smaller number of FB-22’s, That combined with the F/A-22 and B-2 is real long range firepower with less airframes. For strike work, a small FB-22 force would embarass a much larger JSF force on sortie generation, targets hit, survivability, etc. Another problem I have with the JSF is it is taking money away from X-45 UCAV which is a hell of a lot more “joint”, cheaper, and more useful.

    Give the money back to all the JSF contributors and end it. Let other countries figure out their own defense needs.

    The last successful joint effort was the F-4 Phantom.

    in reply to: AASM #2664187
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    Both. The rocket is optional.

    in reply to: AASM #2664617
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    All I can say is: About time.

    This is the most important weapon for the French IMHO. It takes dumb iron kits to the next level and allows for all weather bombing, multiple targets on one pass ( for the GPS/INS terminal one ) . when the GPS/INS version is configured This puts fixed targets at risk in any weather with a contempt for AAA and small SAMs which cant touch the shooter aircraft. A JDAM like attack profile.

    The whole idea is probly better than JDAM in some ways as the kit is a family by itself as explained above. Terminal attack can be anything you want depending on how you assemble the kit before putting it on the jet. GPS/INS terminal like JDAM or IR digital target recognition like SPICE etc. Since JDAM is getting accuracy down in the sub 3 meter region, a lot of targets won’t even require the extra hassle of the IR nose varient for fixed targets.

    Correct me but I believe those are the only two terminal options that are funded for the first delivery order???

    I believe even the rocket motor is optional too meaning if you don’t need it for an attack, don’t put it on.

    A nice inexpensive yet versatile and powerful weapon. Again a really great weapon. Most air plans of the future should be evaluated on how this weapon will be employed. Aircraft with A2G roles ( manned or unmanned ) should be evaluated on their ability to carry this weapon. If you aren’t using weapons like this, ( JDAM, AASM, dual use Paveways ) you are not a big league player. Period.

    This is from a French guy from Orleans, who posted this on the ACIG forum recently:

    in the last Air & Cosmos Intrnational (published yesterday), it was revealed that trials of AASM began in Cazaux in January this year. Three launches of mock-up AASM have already been achieved by Mirage 2000s, for aerodynamic purpose. About twenty other launches are planned this year.

    This photo shows the IR nose setup.

    http://www.sagem.com/presse/acteurs/aasm-zoom.jpg

    in reply to: An interesting question from PakistanDefense: #2665053
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    Originally posted by SD-10
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    stealthy features as it secretly flew over Taiwan undetected.

    http://mil.qianlong.com/4919/2004/03/08/186@1926765.htm

    That is an amazing feat for a legacy design combat jet. I am sure it has some RCS reduction methods in it’s design, but I seriously doubt the credibility of the above event. They would look aweful silly if they attempted something like that and it got shot down. I doubt they are that dumb to make a high risk no gain decision like that.

    in reply to: General Discussion #384696
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    Pretty amazing leftist BS.

    The name Daisy Cutters conjures up images of flowers falling from the sky. Far from it, They are the most powerful conventional bombs in the US arsenal.

    They weigh 15,000 pounds each and, according to the Federation of American Scientist when detonated ‘produces an overpressure of 1000 psi (pounds per square inch) near ground zero, tapering off as distance increases.’

    15,000 pounds. That is exactly 6,803 kilogrammes of solid mass.

    An average Indian male, I found, weighs approximately 60 kilogrammes. An average WWF wrestler tips the scale at 110 kilogrammes and the all-time great Sumo wrestler Konishiki was two short of 300 kilogrammes when he retired.

    A casual web search reveals that the BEST bus that I take every day to office weighs about 6,000 kilogrammes.

    I weigh 75 kgs. A daisy cutter is 800 odd kgs heavier than the bus I take every day. Imagine a bus like that being dropped on a mass of men. The sheer weight is bound kill many. The resulting explosion of a cutter, says the FAS, is not expected to leave any trace of life within a radius of one kilometre.

    While daisy cutters are the mother of all bombs, the US forces in Iraq also used missiles, laser guided bunker busters and unguided bombs. Much of it in civilian areas, ostensibly, hiding military installations.

    Except no “daisy cutters” were used in Iraq. A small handful of them were used in OEF ( Afghanistan ) .

    An opposing view is one thing. An opposing view with BS banter and no sourcing is another.

    in reply to: Nobel Peace Prize for Bush and Blair? #1968589
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    Pretty amazing leftist BS.

    The name Daisy Cutters conjures up images of flowers falling from the sky. Far from it, They are the most powerful conventional bombs in the US arsenal.

    They weigh 15,000 pounds each and, according to the Federation of American Scientist when detonated ‘produces an overpressure of 1000 psi (pounds per square inch) near ground zero, tapering off as distance increases.’

    15,000 pounds. That is exactly 6,803 kilogrammes of solid mass.

    An average Indian male, I found, weighs approximately 60 kilogrammes. An average WWF wrestler tips the scale at 110 kilogrammes and the all-time great Sumo wrestler Konishiki was two short of 300 kilogrammes when he retired.

    A casual web search reveals that the BEST bus that I take every day to office weighs about 6,000 kilogrammes.

    I weigh 75 kgs. A daisy cutter is 800 odd kgs heavier than the bus I take every day. Imagine a bus like that being dropped on a mass of men. The sheer weight is bound kill many. The resulting explosion of a cutter, says the FAS, is not expected to leave any trace of life within a radius of one kilometre.

    While daisy cutters are the mother of all bombs, the US forces in Iraq also used missiles, laser guided bunker busters and unguided bombs. Much of it in civilian areas, ostensibly, hiding military installations.

    Except no “daisy cutters” were used in Iraq. A small handful of them were used in OEF ( Afghanistan ) .

    An opposing view is one thing. An opposing view with BS banter and no sourcing is another.

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