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June 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm in reply to: Hawker Hurricane Instrument Panel Help Please #889089

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To extend tool life the trial labels are Black ABS Plastic, Smooth Sheet, 3mm, paint filled for the moment.

I do a 2x final size of each text block which allows me to quickly redo in 1:2 reduction in whatever material I finally select without undue worry on replication of line spacing and text layout.

I think that the final labels will either be 2mm ABS or 16 Gauge Alloy ( needs to be thick enough to take engraving of not be less than .010″ deep and provide the same packing thickness behind the u/c indicator as the correction card holder).

The labels are a mixture of Type A (normal) and Type C (condensed) and quite a challenge to typeset initially. The rule of thumb is that on the Pilots Notes piccys if you can read the smaller text 1/8″ then it’s Type A but if the same size is blurred then it’s Type C.

Two things I’m short on is a good image of the warning label below the mag switches, above the supercharger control (I think it’s 5 lines of text below the Warning and contains the word “atmosphere” and the very small single line of text on the port panel just above it.

There are a few blurred partials on the net but none that I can use to typeset a reproduction.

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Ross

June 14, 2014 at 1:34 pm in reply to: Hawker Hurricane Instrument Panel Help Please #889119

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Cheers Mike,

The devil is in the detail as they say!

The panel is one that I first abandoned because I screwed up with the bending allowance for the inside flange. It ended up 2-3 mm short on the outer edge, you can see that with the outer mounting holes on the u/c indicator and u/c lamp on/off/change over switch being too close to the edge.

I use it now for layout and other dimension checks with some spare instrumentation.

The drawing is for a Mk.II so the 12 hr display clock/blanking plate would be more suitable than the 24 hr one for the early marks.

Of note is that the Hawker Drawing contains a mix of gear provision for the MkI and II.

eg port panel has both Starter and Booster push button provision instead of just the Starter, while the starboard panel has the cutout for the starting mag switch which was more appropriate for the MkI but left and blanked on most MkII with the Booster Coil fit.

Also the starboard panel has three cutout for Fuel Pressure Lamp, rectangular Oil Pressure gauge and small Smiths style circular fuel pressure gauge.

Normally, on survivor panels, if the Fuel Pressure Lamp was fitted it was in a rectangular hole with a cover plate, rather than with a dedicated circular hole and no provision was made for the additional smiths style gauge.

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Ross

June 14, 2014 at 9:06 am in reply to: Hawker Hurricane Instrument Panel Help Please #889227

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.11″ dimension between face of panel and max depth of depression. (allows panel to sit flush against support tube and give 0.05″ clearance on edge flange)

.05″ R

.13″ MAX BEND RADII INSIDE OF FLANGES

Just been having a trial of the various engraving labels to see what fits best between Type A and Type C.

Top label for green lamp needs extending under the u/c indicator to pick up mounting holes.

Bottom label for triple switch needs reducing in width to 3/4″ from current 1″

Block and fascia label for starter and booster coil push buttons to be done (mount hole reduced from 1.3″ for rotax switch to 1″ for the type B)

Clock is 24 hr hole filler version rather than correct 12 hr

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June 13, 2014 at 1:40 pm in reply to: Aircraft ID #889754

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Well the wing set S1238 belonged to a Hawker Horsley Torpedo Bomber Mk.II.

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Ross

June 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm in reply to: Avpin #898024

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AVPIN was being looked at by NASA in recent times as a method of initially accellerating a scram jet vehicle until it reached the speed when the scram jet could sustain.

Hyper-X used a Pegasus Booster which is proposed for several new projects and AVPIN was one of the options investigated for Pegasus II derivatives.

Out of the loop now so I do not know if it is still being considered.

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Ross

May 29, 2014 at 9:00 am in reply to: Blenheim Crash Help Thannet #903406

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“Lost height in the circuit in bad visibility on the return from a sweep. The Blenheim flew into the ground at Manston”

So both at and near correct for an incident in the circuit.

From RAF Coastal Command Losses, Vol 1

Ross

May 27, 2014 at 7:58 pm in reply to: TV Heads up. #904704

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Nope lots on this one.

Try search on

Easy Elsie

Ross

May 18, 2014 at 2:41 pm in reply to: Goodwin Sands Dornier progress thread #915440

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In my opinion the sponsors were the ones that donated the bulk of the funds and I for one will bow to where they wished to see their funds spent.

As a large donation they had the option to dictate where the funds were spent. They chose the Do.17 and not any of the other projects, and did so for their own reasons.

Ross

April 23, 2014 at 7:58 pm in reply to: Help needed to find British quick-release clips for leather straps circa 1940s/1950s #930358

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Not sure from your photo but Lift the dot fasteners?

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-940-lift-the-dot-fastener.aspx

as used on parachute pack inspection flaps and 1950/60 soft top hoods for sports cars

Ross

April 23, 2014 at 2:27 pm in reply to: The smell of history #930434

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Hi Bunsen,

For the foam/pvc the problem is “plasticiser migration”.

This is the same process that makes pvc cable sheath go brittle with age (or sticky if it is in contact with Styrofoam loft insulation).

Suspect a similar effect happens with vulcanised rubber but it may also be due to UV and atmosphere contamination as well for bladders.

Regards
Ross

April 13, 2014 at 10:07 pm in reply to: Taylor Pressure helmet? #934514

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According to London Gazette he retired as S/L at his own request 1st May 1982.

Commissioned as confirmed Pilot Officer 3rd Feb 1954 – service number 2572380

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/40134/supplement/1885

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Ross

April 11, 2014 at 9:22 am in reply to: Hurricane crash sites at Garmouth #936378

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The month given Roy9 in the original post is wrong and should be July.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2706280/MAY,%20LEONARD%20GEORGE

For £6.60 you can download the ORB of No.17 Sqn for July 1941 and see what was written at the time

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details?Uri=D8408930

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details?Uri=D8408931

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Ross

April 9, 2014 at 10:40 pm in reply to: RDF East Coast Chain Home #218820

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This is the Pevensey Receiver Block a few years ago for comparison with the final picture in the model post.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/p/pevensey_chain_home/index10.shtml

Bawdsey Transmitter block for comparison with the first picture in the model post.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/b/bawdsey_radar/index8.shtml

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Ross

April 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm in reply to: RDF East Coast Chain Home #218821

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Cheers Moggy,

Sad to say that the wooden receiver towers were not built to last so they were always going to be a temporary landscape vision.

The metal transmitter towers needed a champion to provide use and maintenance for them to remain in place into this century.

Placing the model structures into a scale landscape setting gives an insight into what was.

Always wanted to use a photograph of the model as a slightly transparent acrylic pane in a visualisation port for a visitor interpretation aid. That way Bawdsey could add back all the towers surrounding the transmitter block.

The Augmented Reality display of the Dornier at Hendon and Cosford shows what could be done with a smart phone as another type of visualisation port.

Imagine the effect at Newark. Sitting in the café and turning to look out the window over the runway and seeing not only the scene today but also an almost transparent image of the wartime aerodrome with Stirlings on finals and dotted round the dispersals. The echoes of the past.

Quite simple to do with a modern window overlay films.

Regards
Ross

March 28, 2014 at 10:01 am in reply to: Blast shelter photo #938483

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Hi Ian,

Need to speak to Snapper for a release but how about this period one on this page of the forum.

Post #137

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?128809-Battle-of-Britain-Images/page5

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Ross
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