Well it looks like time again to post the YouTube link to Bob’s video of the Ju88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prmz6YAse6c&feature=share&list=FLyfJRRYGv4Phok-X_j9jxMg

Ross

Hi Andy,

Not required reading for any Sub Aqua qualification so results in same as for aviation anoracks – They only know if they read round the subject.

Recent publicity has been aimed at recording the seabed finds landed by means of the Receiver of Wreck.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-home/emergencyresponse/mcga-receiverofwreck/mcga-dops_row_reasons_to_report.htm

It’s this that suggests that declaring is all that needs to be legally done in most divers minds.

Regards
Ross

Hi Grahame,

Best get it from the horses mouth so to speak.

Pop along to the National Archives at Kew and look at the Board of Trade reports into the accident

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C576651

BT 217/2497

and

BT 217/2509

These should give what was recovered and how the conclusion was reached.

Regards
Ross

The lack of a grave marker would be reason for initial inclusion in the Runnymede register, hence why I asked if the grave had a marker in my posts on WW2 Talk.

An alternative is for the person to be CWGC registered with a grave in the churchyard but marked with a Special Class Stone denoting “buried near this spot” but location not marked.

In this case the photo proves a known and marked grave. As I was the respondee rather than the initiator I did not contact CWGC in this case to advise correction but in other items that I have reported they have checked and responded fairly quickly to say that registers will be amended immediately, new stones ordered and Runnymede panel to be corrected when next re-engraved.

Regards
Ross

My interest is sea losses of aircraft so once I confirmed that they were not naval airmen I left it at that without further research.

Would spoil the “information hunt” if the answer to everything was just a question away on the forum.

Regards
Ross

Doubt it very much for two reasons.

1. The squadrons are FAA and as such the bods would have been naval airmen in the FAA rather than RAF

and

2. The service number block was 4040000 to 4049999 Oct 1949 Regular enlistments Non ATC Cardington. So the earliest he could have enlisted was 1949 four years after the events you give.

Ross

Hi Elliott,

The Lifeboat crew were beaten to the rescue by the local plod and small boats.

“Ditched 04:27.
P/O Dunn encountered intense AA fire on the way to the target which caused him to turn north and endeavour to go round it.
On making his run up the target he was attacked by two Me109s from astern which scored many hits on his aircraft also wounding the observer and the front gunner.
It was a bright moonlight night and consequently on its second attack one of the Me109s was easily seen by the rear gunner P/O Watt who fired a long burst at it as it passed under the Whitley’s tail, it was then seen by P/O Dunn to be going down obviously out of control on its back.
In spite of this opposition the target was attacked from 8,000 ft and fires were started at a Blast Furnace.
During the return journey the port engine, which had been damaged by machine gun fire caught fire, but the crew managed to put it out, a second time it caught fire, and P/O Dunn decided to stop it which he did.
They were then nearing the Dutch coast on the return journey, on one engine, and P/O Dunn asked his crew if they wished to abandon aircraft or attempt the sea crossing on one engine – they all chose the latter course and came across at 400 ft finally landing in the sea off Hastings Pier where they were rescued.”
AIR27/655

“Hastings, Sussex.
At 04:25 in the morning of the 20th June 1940, a British aeroplane came down in the sea about three quarters of a mile from Hastings Pier. The sea was calm and the weather clear. Police and others went out in three boats and rescued the five men of the crew a few minutes before the aeroplane sank.
Rewards: £2 10s.

June 20th – Hastings, Sussex.
An aeroplane had come down in the sea but small boats gave all the help needed.
Rewards: £20 5s 9d.”
(Source: Supplement to Annual Reports of the Royal National Lifeboat Institution 1939-46)