Hi Adrian,
This is the record from the RNLI Records of Service 1939-46
HERNE BAY, KENT.
Shortly after mid-day on the 26th August, 1940, aeroplanes were seen to crash off Reculver and Herne Bay, and three parachutes to be coming down.
About four in the afternoon another aeroplane crashed off Herne Bay, and another man came down in the sea by parachute. Five men from Herne Bay put out in three motor boats and a rowing boat and rescued three British and two German airmen. – Rewards, £2 15s. and 7s. 6d. for fuel used.
The bit about the rewards is that when war broke out the RNLI Charity took the decision that any act of lifesaving at sea by anyone was to be treated in the same way that the charity rewarded it’s volunteer lifeboat crews. A massive undertaking for an independent society but one that it faithfully undertook for the entire war.
Regards
Ross
The Stirling F1180s raised for the 10th/11th are
R9357
BF345
So looks like negative on F1180. Try RAFM to see if BC Loss card raised.
Regards
Ross
Hi VACB,
The two main incident classifications are FA (Flying Accident) and FB (Flying Battle).
AO (Air Operations) was a sub category that could be applied to either FA or FB. This was used when the aircraft was flying an operational sortie.
Usually FB with AO was an incident directly attributed to enemy action eg intruder victory. For Bomber Command it would generate a Bomber Loss Card and subsequently a Casualty Pack.
Where the incident happened some time after the enemy action eg tyre collapsed on landing due to shrapnel over target it would be classed as FB/AO. Depending on crew injuries a casualty pack may or may not be created.
A few incidents were changed from the initial FB/AO to FA/AO where it was thought that the primary cause was not enemy action but that the enemy event was a secondary cause. In this case a Casualty Pack was not created but a Form 1180 Accident Card was.
A quick and dirty go at seeing if a casualty pack may be in the pipeline for release is to see if a Form 1180 had been created. If no F1180 then most likely that a Loss Card/Casualty Pack was used.
What incident are you wondering about?
Regards
Ross
The use of “Blue Circle” codes for the ballast block pre Foxhunter for Tornado did little to hide it’s true purpose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI.24_Foxhunter
Regards
Ross
Getting impossible to keep quiet.
Had a MkII clock sent to me from the US recently.
All passed and accepted States side but triggered the radiation detectors at Coventry when it arrived in the UK.
Invited to accept in person at Coventry hub so I turned up with a panel for the aeromuseum in the back of the car to drop off after picking up the clock.
The BFP in the car set off the gate detectors as I drove up to the security gatehouse.
All incoming vehicles including the HGVs are screened this way according to the bods.
My experience says no to trying to ship a hot instrument in or out of Coventry hub as an undeclared item.
Regards
Ross
Collective name for Forms 540 and possibly 541 bound together as Operations Record Book
Ross
The naval aviation of the UK in the between the wars period was predominately the RN trying to wrest control of all matters on Naval Aviation including Coastal Command assets from RAF control and returning them to RN control so this makes the oft repeated claim that all Admiralty was against air power a falsehood.
RNAS in the first war was the leader in what was to become strategic bomber attack and home based fighter attack methods, most of the officers involved in this innovative use of air assets had progressed up the ranks to quite important decision makers in the Admiralty.
Ross
Part of the answer to the type selection is that in the between the wars period the fleet aircraft when not embarked were lodged at RAF Stations and maintained/serviced by RAF Personnel. Only a small percentage of the FAA aircraft were embarked at any given time.
This led to a preference for aircraft types that mirrored the types in RAF service for availability of spares on the lodger stations.
However to say that it was not until 1941 that the need for a front line fighter aircraft was identified is incorrect.
In 1934/35 the fleet requirement O.27/34 for a single engine monoplane design was released. It responded to the perceived threat at the time to naval units at sea of capital ships and land based bombers (fighters did not have the range or weight of armament to be considered as a serious threat).
As a result the design was for a bomber destroyer fighter that could be used as a dive bomber to attack capital ships through the weaker armoured decks (waterline armour was getting thicker to protect against both sea and air torpedo attack).
In 1937 the first prototypes of the Blackburn Skua flew and shortly after entered service until 1941 when replaced.
The predominance of attack on naval units at sea by land based bombers was addressed in parallel with 0.30/35 which required a turreted bomber destroyer. The developed result being the Roc.
By the early 1940s the perceived threat had changed swinging the need for a fighter defensive aircraft without the extra role of dive bomber making adaption of current fighter designs acceptable.
So to say the FAA entered the war with biplanes is not strictly true as other specially designed monoplane fighters were in FAA service as well.
Regards
Ross
Cowan’s East African Safari 1600 Lancer built by Ralliart was the only Japanese factory rally car I spent any time in during the mid/late 70s.
That was Butler/Twin master fit with white light bulbs.
Since you say the lamp is blue/green source it would suggest a lighting system compatible with early NVG (white light saturates the optics). Most US surplus gear of the Vietnam era would not have been NVG compatible.
1970s US rather than Japanese would be more common on lighting fits of that time but the combination of high tech (for that era) NVG compatible lighting with tripmaster rather than the higher spec twin master is odd.
Although the shade is similar to Type C (yes – standard or cut to suit options) I think a US rather than RAF original source.
Regards
Ross
Strewth that takes me back.
Fiddling under the dash setting up the Halda (usually a twin master) for the wheels and rims we were using.
Had to put in the calibration gears and do a couple of runs along the measured mile. Then look up the actual gears needed on the paper chart. Had to do this for knobblies and slicks then dyno tape the required settings above the tripmaster for digging out the bag and fitting when required on the event.
After you had set a few for others in the club you ended up with a bag of calibration gears and shortage of the ones you wanted.
Back to the flexi light – the most common was the Butler but this had an open end shade and pushbutton on the fixing end. The open ended shade was fine for map illumination for over the shoulder or down lighting the map but could be very distracting for the driver on night events. Also set up internal reflections on the screen.
Avanti/Les Leston/Paddy Hopkirk etc had an enclosed shade with a rectangular slot which was better for stopping glare and gave controllable direction.
Best of all was directed illumination on the Halda and a pottie for the map. No glare but bags of 1 inch map magnification but you needed to be adept at juggling.
This one looks to have the military Cockpit Lamp Type C shade but not the usual bulb holder. The separate switch is unusual too so I inclined to say that this was a surplus home brew rather than off the shelf rallypart.
Regards
Ross
The odd Gordon lasted well into the war in the middle east.
This one was damaged, Cat B, in a heavy landing with a Repair and Salvage Unit in July 1942!
Form 1180 copyright RAF Museum, Hendon
Regards
Ross
Hi,
Catalina JX257, took off on the 2nd for A/S Patrol
F/L N W Wraight
F/Sgt J Uher
F/Sgt A W Patterson
W/O A G W Payne
W/O K L Roth RCAF
F/Sgt K Jeynes
F/Sgt R F Harrison
Sgt S G Perrett
P/O J McIlrath RCAF
Missing north east of Faroes after sending an SOS at 01:08 hrs on the 3rd. The Catalina had been airborne for over 14 hours.
Regards
Ross
Took a Polish pilot, F/Lt Lewkowicz, flying an Army Co-op Mustang to get the powers that be to sit up and examine the range of the Mustang I with the Allison on 28th Sept 1942.
He flew one from Scotland to Stavanger and back to straff the shore installations. He escaped Court Martial because the flight authorisation book said “target practice on ground targets” but did not specify a local range!
http://www.polishsquadronsremembered.com/309/309_story.html
Regards
Ross
Cheers Andy for the extra info.
Looks like my answer from the TNA has shown things have moved on with the allocation of class and piece numbers.
Regards
Ross