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  • in reply to: Part from Spitfire BS491? #1370548
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi Jon,

    Now I see the reason for your other question.

    From the Draft RAF Coastal Command Losses Vol. 2

    16/12/43
    541 Sqn
    Spitfire IV
    BS491

    F/L R P Johnson, 67059, +

    Op: PR, RAF North Front, Time up 09:45 hrs

    Took for a flight from Gibraltar. Plotted over Plymouth at 20,000 feet, 14:00 hrs. At 14:15 hrs the Spitfire dived into ground at Wraxall Somerset. F/L Johnson was thought to have baled out due to bad visibility and radio failure but struck the aircraft and failed to open his parachute. The body of the pilot was found over one mile from the crash scene and now rests in St.Mary Churchyard, Addington, Surrey.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Sir Henry R.S. "Tim" Birkin #1384650
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    A bit out of my research area but I can add that the April 1918 Air Force List records him as an Aeroplane and Seaplane officer, seniority of Lieutenant as of 1 April 1918.

    Try the Online London Gazette to determine his promotions before and after that date.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: RAF squadrons in Australia? #1390235
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Quite a few Dave,

    I’m suprised that you have not read of No.618 Sqn HighBall Mossies at Melbourne and Narrowmine.

    Darwin. 54 Sqn Spits
    Darwin Civil. 548 Sqn Spits, 549 Sqn Spits

    Cocos Islands. 95 Sqn Liberators, 136 Sqn Spits, 203 Sqn Liberators, 205 Sqn Liberators, 205 Sqn Catalinas, 321 Sqn Catalinas, 356 Sqn Liberators, 684 Sqn Mosquito/Beaufighters

    Port Blair. 139 Sqn Hudsons, 28 Sqn Lysanders

    Just a selection off the top of my head. Possibly your reading material is not wide enough 🙂

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Me110 Portland Harbour #1396280
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi David,

    Ask if it was in Weymouth Bay rather than Portland Harbour or was it off Ney Breakwater.

    Hate to say it but it could also have been trawled up from the channel in another location and dumped by a home bound Weymouth trawler.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: India, what's next???? #1423811
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi TT,

    The Cat is at Uidh, Vatersay.

    JX273, F, of No.302 FTU took off from RAF Oban on 12th May 1944.

    The following snippets are from the No.281 Sqn ORB, RNLI Records of Service 1939-46 and a letter from a chap to the Barra News.

    Wreckage reported on mountain side near Vatersay by No.281 Sqn.

    MAY 12TH. – BARRA ISLAND, HEBRIDES.
    At 7.15 in the morning a doctor of Castlebay telephoned to the life-boat honorary secretary that he had received a telephone message from Vatersay post office that an R.A.F. Sunderland flying boat had crashed on the hillside, at Uidh, Vatersay, and that members of the crew were badly hurt. A light westerly wind was blowing with a slight sea. The doctor asked for the
    services of the life-boat, and at 7.50 the motor life-boat Lloyd’s put out with him on board. She took a motor boat with her and reached Uidh in a quarter of an hour. Three of the crew took the doctor ashore in the motor boat, and found three airmen dead, and of the remaining six, three so seriously injured that stretchers were needed. The life-boat made two trips to and from Uidh with the dead and injured and arrived back at her station at 1.30 that afternoon. The local R.A.F. officer asked if the life-boat could again be used to take out the injured men to a ship which had arrived from Tobermory. She set out at 3.30, made two trips with the men and returned to her station at five o’clock. – Rewards, £10 1s.

    BARRA News
    On May 12th 1944 a Catalina flying boat JX272 (Sic. RMcN) took off from 302 Ferry Training Unit at Oban for a night flight exercise. The pilot was Flight Sgt. J R Clyned and his co-pilot Sgt. E A Kilshaw with 7 members of crew. It left Oban and the next turning point was to be Barra Head, but the navigator became worried that they were well off their intended course. On re-checking his compass the navigator found that they were indeed off course. He then checked with the pilot’s compass and found that this was giving the wrong reading. The pilot began to climb immediately to a safe altitude but when they reached 700ft the aircraft crashed into the hillside on Heishavel Beag on Vatersay. Three members of the crew were killed and the other six injured. The RAF took away the engines, weapons, radio and radar. The rest of the aircraft was broken up and dumped at the bottom of the hill where parts of it can still be seen today. The lifeboat brought the three bodies and six injured crew off Vatersay to Barra.

    One of the survivors from that crash, Sgt. Calder returned to Barra on holiday about 3 years ago and was very moved to see the wreckage of the Catalina in Vatersay. During his visit to the Heritage Centre he was informed that the lady who attended his injuries on the night of the crash in Vatersay was still alive and in St. Brendan’s home and he was able to visit her. Since then he has provided more details and a photograph of the crew of the Catalina.

    A letter received this week expresses concern that the wreckage is still there: “I write regarding parts from the above aircraft having noted same laying by the roadside on the Isle of Vatersay on August 6th 2001. My interest arises as not only being a former Royal Air Force and career civil air pilot but also as possessed of a wide knowledge of aviation history together with prolonged active participation in historic aircraft ownership, restoration and preservation. Given such background it will be clear why I prefer not to see the remains of a fatal aircraft accident left neglected by the road-side some 57 years after the tragic mishap.” The writer may not be aware that the Catalina is regarded locally as a memorial to those who lost their lives that night and that action to provide an information plaque on the site is being considered.

    Link to photo of wreckage
    http://www.ww2inthehighlands.co.uk/folders/crashes/othercrashes.htm

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Welsh Beach Relic #1431715
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi Atcham Tower,

    A few months ago there was a thread on RAF Stores References. It included the aircraft references. So assuming the ref is 26F:

    26FA Brigand
    26FC Vampire & Sea Vampire
    26FH Sea Fury
    26FK Hastings
    26FL Valetta & Viking
    26FM Prentice T1
    26FN Devon C
    26FP Shackleton
    26FR Winged Targets
    26FU Balliol & Sea Balliol
    26FV Dragonfly HC & HR
    26FW Heron
    26FX Hunter & De Havilland N139D(Type 110)
    26FY Sea Vixen
    26FZ Canberra

    No Gnat, but it would be worth eliminating losses of these types first.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: RAF Bomber Command Military Cemeteries #1431721
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Umm..

    I suppose a few miles up the road from your beloved Driffield is what I would call a “major” Bomber Command cemetery.

    Harrogate Stonefall Cemetery

    “Nearly all of the 988 Second World War burials in Harrogate (Stonefall) Cemetery are of airmen, two-thirds of them Canadian. (1 of the burials is an unidentified R.A.F. airman), Many of these men died in the military wing of Harrogate General Hospital.”

    One closing thought.
    The number of graves here is approximately the number of Bomber Command Airmen that failed to return on one night from one raid in 1944.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Captain shaffner and xs894 #1345093
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Amazing how often this one surfaces.

    From Air Clues:
    The pilot of the accident aircraft was a USAF exchange officer who had completed 2 tours on the USAF F-102 all weather fighter. He had accumulated 121 hours on the Lightning, of which 18 were at night. He had been declared Limited Combat Ready after only 8 weeks on the squadron; this unusually short period of time was based on his previous operational status as well as his performance thus far on the Lightning. The limitation on his operational status was partially due to the requirement to complete all the stages of the visident profiles; at the time of the accident, he was qualified in 2 of the 3 phases of visident, which meant that he would be capable of carrying out shadowing and shepherding tasks only if he was in visual contact with the target.

    The Squadron was participating in a Taceval at RAF Binbrook and the squadron Cdr had authorised this pilot to participate, in the belief that he would not be involved in a shadowing or shepherding mission. However, unbeknown to the station or squadron, the Taceval team had just changed the exercise scenario from normal interceptions to shadowing or shepherding on slow speed low-flying targets. The targets were Shackletons flying at 160kts at the minimum authorised height of 1,500ft.

    After maintaining one hour at cockpit readiness, the pilot was scrambled. While he was taxying, the scramble was cancelled and he returned to the dispersal, ordering fuel only and no turnround servicing. This was contrary to standing instructions and the engineering officer ordered a full turnround. The turnround was delayed and, during this delay, the pilot was warned that he would be scrambled as soon as he was ready. He told the groundcrew to expedite the servicing but started his engines and taxied before the servicing was complete. He got airborne at 20:30.

    The pilot climbed to FL 100 and was handed over to GCI; he was then given a shadowing task against a 160kt target at 1,500ft. At a range of 28nm, he was told to accelerate to M.95 in order to expedite the take over from another Lightning. He called that he was in contact with the lights but would have to manoeuvre to slow down; his voice was strained, as though he was being affected by ‘g’. His aircraft was seen by the other Lightning pilot; it appeared to be about 2,000yds astern and 500-1,000ft above the Shackleton, in a port turn. The Shackleton crew then saw the aircraft, apparently very low. Shortly afterwards, the Lightning pilot failed to acknowledge instructions and emergency procedures were initiated. A search by the Shackleton, and a further air/sea search the following day, failed to detect any trace of the aircraft or pilot.

    The wreckage was located nearly 2 months later with surprisingly little damage. The canopy was attached and closed, and there was no sign of the pilot. The aircraft appeared to have struck the sea at a low speed, planed the surface and come to rest comparitively slowly. The ejection seat handle had been pulled to the full extent allowed by the interruptor link in the main gun sear. (The interruptor link ensures that the seat does not fire unless the canopy has gone). The canopy gun sear had been withdrawn but the cartridge had not been struck with sufficient force to fire it (during servicing the firing unit had been incorrectly seated because of damaged screw heads). The canopy had been opened normally, the QRB was undone, as was the PEC, and the PSP lanyard had been released from the life jacket.

    It was concluded that the difficult task, carried out in rushed circumstances, combined with a lack of training in this profile, led to the pilot failing to monitor his height while slowing down. He had inadvertantly flown into the sea but had attempted to recover the situation by selecting reheat; this was ineffective with the tail skimming the water. He attempted to eject, but this was unsuccessful due to the canopy failing to jettison. He then manually abandoned the aircraft, but was never found. He was, therefore, presumed to have drowned during or after his escape.

    Wing Commander Spry says. There are a number of points which are raised by this article, the first of which is do not believe all you read in the newspapers! Among the serious points to consider are the distractions and stress caused by the false scramble and interrupted turnround, as well as the supervisory failure of allowing a LCR pilot to participate in a Taceval by night. Close supervision during exercise conditions, in a single seat environment, is almost impossible. Minimum qualifications are laid down for a reason!

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Aviation architecture, what was this buildings purpose? #1345628
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi Denis,

    Used for all fabrics from Bed Linen, Uniform, tablecloths, tents et all depending on the holding of the store for the parent and satellite sites.

    Only fabrics not stored here were the impregnated gas clothing and parachutes.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Aviation architecture, what was this buildings purpose? #1345792
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Looks like the Main Stores.

    The larger building is the Fabric store.

    Too many windows for an AML Bombing Teacher or a Hunt Turret Trainer.

    The Airfield Plan from the RAF Museum will confirm.

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Hurricane in River Dee #1349828
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi Moggy,

    The RNLI records of service are probably the best position source for aircraft wrecks off the UK coastline. In some cases the loss is given to less than 100 yards.

    The original details were recorded at the time of loss by experienced eyewitnesses who had the means and skill to plot positions. In 1946 all these observations were published in the Records of Service.

    Off the East coast the Records of Service usually give the aircraft type as well making indentification a breeze.

    The industrial effluent make visibilty poor in the Dee Estuary and most wrecks are now covered by either mud or sand so Sub Bottom Profilers are needed to locate them.

    Having said all that there are exceptions to the rule as with the Avenger TBF-1B and Hurricane Mk I. The poor vis in the River Forth means that the sites ar only visited occasionally.

    http://www.divernet.com/wrecks/1101planesd.htm

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Hurricane in River Dee #1351529
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    The River Dee estuary claimed quite a few aircraft but some times the sea did not claim the pilot. The following are a few of the RNLI records (I’ve added the aircraft serials):

    Martinet HP242
    LLANERCHYMOR, FLINTSHIRE.
    At 11.20 in the morning of the 17th of July, 1944, the skipper of the auxiliary rescue boat saw an aeroplane crash into the River Dee about a mile south-east of Llanerchymor. The weather was fine and the sea calm. The auxiliary rescue-boat put out with a crew of three. Two young men who were out in a sailing dinghy had gone at once to the rescue and picked up one airman, wearing a life-jacket. The rescue-boat picked up the other airman, who was without a life-jacket and had swum or drifted some distance away. She returned to the dinghy, took on board the man it had rescued and, with the dinghy in tow, made for Llanerchymor, arriving at 12.30. – Rewards, £2 17s. 6d. with 4s. 6d. for
    fuel used and £1 2s. 6d. for loss of fishing.
    (Source: RNLI Records of Service 1939-46)

    Spitfire BM113
    Hit drogue during firing practice and dived into Dee Estuary, Flint.

    JULY 24TH. – RHYL, FLINTSHIRE.
    A Spitfire aeroplane had crashed in the sea, but disappeared without leaving any trace. Rewards, £9 6s.
    (See Llancrchynmor. Services by Auxiliary Rescue-boats, page 68.)
    (Source: RNLI Records of Services 1939-46)

    LLANERCHYMOR, FLINTSHIRE.
    As a result of information given by the Mostyn police, and confirmed by the Hoylake coastguard, the auxiliary rescue-boat was launched about four in the afternoon of the 24th of July, 1944, to search for a Spitfire aeroplane, which had crashed into the sea off Talacre, River Dee. The weather was fine with a light north-east wind and a smooth sea. On her way the rescue-boat met a fishing boat and learned that the aeroplane had nose-dived into deep water. As the fishing boat had already searched for the pilot without result, the rescue-boat turned back, bringing the fishing boat with her. They reached Llanerchymor at six o’clock, The Rhyl life-boat had also put out, but found nothing. – Rewards, £1 5s. and 6s. 6d. for fuel used.
    (See Rhyl, Accounts of Services by Life-boats, page 28.)
    (Source: RNLI Records of Service 1939-46)

    Anson EG186
    Ditched off Llanerch-y-mor, Flint.

    LLANERCHYMOR, FLINTSHIRE.
    At 12.15 in the afternoon of the 15th of March, 1945, an Anson aeroplane came down in the Dee Estuary, off Llanerchymor. A strong south-west wind was blowing, but the sea was calm. The crash was seen by Mr. N. Jones, who ran and told Mr. J. C. Mealor and Mr. S. Mealor, fishermen. All three went by car to the wharf and the two Mealors put out in their rowing boat Flint Castle. They sculled to the aeroplane, 300 yards out. It was sinking rapidly and the two airmen were up to their shoulders in the water, both exhausted, and one with his foot entangled in the wire controls. With difficulty the two fishermen rescued them and brought them ashore. They went out again, fixed the aeroplane with anchors and rope, and later helped to salve her. For this they received £3. – Rewards, £1.
    (Source: RNLI Records of Service 1939-46)

    Regards
    Ross

    in reply to: Hurricane in River Dee #1355392
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    F/O D R K Nussey RCAF

    Hi Atcham Tower,

    The pilot was F/O Douglas Richard Kyrke RCAF, J/43333.

    Here’s how I arrived at the name.

    Polish Airman:
    Polish aircrew rarely appear in the CWGC registers.

    B Clements and R L Grasse have compiled an excellent list of the Polish War Graves, Newark on Trent Cemetery (ISBN 1 872286 74 7)

    If the pilot had been a Pole and his body recovered then it was most likely he would be buried at Newark on Trent Cemetery. Examination of the records gave no match.

    A check of the Northolt Memorial for a Missing Polish Airman also gives no match so it was very unlikely that the pilot was Polish.

    Czech Airman:
    Most of the Czech Airmen are listed in the CWGC registers so a trawl through names Ua, Ub etc should have listed him. Examination of the records gave no match.

    A similar check on the Veternari on http://www.tmavomodrysvet.cz/new/index2.htm
    also gave no match so again unlikely that the airman was Czech.

    So having failed on the name and Polish/Czech possibilities it was time to check on the other piece of information that you offered i.e. the pilot was not recovered.

    If not Polish then the pilot should be listed on Runnymede if his body had not been recovered at the time of the crash or shortly after.

    Runnymede lists 18 names for 31st Dec 1944. Most are attributed to a squadron (620, 248, 138, 137). 3 names (2 RAAF and 1 RCAF) have no unit which is typical of training losses.

    Checking the RAAF names with the on-line database at http://www.awm.gov.au/database/roh.asp
    confirmed that they were assigned to No.138 Sqn at time of death.

    This left the RCAF name Nussey. A look at They Shall Grow Not Old by Les Allison and Harry Hayward ISBN 0-920436-41-2 gives the following entry:

    “Nussey, Douglas Richard Kyrke F/O(P) J43333/R207038
    From Hudson Heights, Quebec. Killed Dec 31/44 age 20. #41 Operational Training Unit. F/O Nussey lost his life when his Hurricane aircraft #LF369 crashed four hundred yards off shore, one mile north of Flint, Scotland. Flying Officer Pilot Nussey has no known grave, his name is inscribed on the Runnymede War Memorial, Englefield Green, Egham, Surrey, England.2

    The error in location is typical of the type of error in this publication.

    Regards
    Ross

    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Hi,

    Did a water treatment works in North London last year. Part of project was to refurbish drawoff tower from local reservoir.

    Checks into Police Occurence/Telephone logs and ARP bomb plots showed no UXO in the vicinity but revealed that numerous Incendiaries were collected by ARP and dumped into Reservoir on a regular basis.

    As a result EOD was planned to appear when the reservoir levels had dropped sufficently to allow scanning to take place.

    Needless to say despite all agreed precautions including 24 hr guards one device was taken from site and caused full scale attendance from emergency services. Device recovered quickly and made safe but subsequent reports failed the “chuckle test” in front of the management.

    Check the records, plan accordingly, plan for the unexpected, plan a new position if the slightest detail missed.

    Ross

    in reply to: Sgt Derek Wilson Halton #1374921
    Ross_McNeill
    Participant

    Ok,

    You need to put on your Sherlock Holmes deerstalker and sleuth the following.

    The death would have been registered in the local parish containing Kenley or Seal (this may be a miss-print for Sea).

    If you search the Local Coronor reports for 15th August (give a few days after as well as 7 and 14 days later) you should get the detail for the Certificate of Death.

    You also know that he was 21 when he was killed. Contact the GRO (General Registry Office) at Liverpool and search for his birth certificate using the Year of Birth as 40-21 or 22.

    The RAFVR pre-war recruited locally and carried out training locally. Flying training at Sealand suggests Liverpool/North Wales etc as where he was working in 1939.

    Regards
    Ross

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