Klimov is already developing RD-33 derivatives with much increased thrust- RD-33-10M, VK-10M, etc.
Well to be fair, by the time the F-35 is in service, the Typhoon should have an AESA, no?
It was. If you’ll notice, almost ALL the bombs on Russian aircraft over on the IMMPRESSIVE LOADS thread are of this draggy looking type so I’m skeptical about “these are for internal use only” line of reasoning.
I said they were designed for internal use, not “these are internal use only”. There’s nothing to stop them from using them for external carry, and indeed they do. It’s possible that they’re cheaper to produce and therefore likely the first bombs to go when a bomb needs dropping in say a low-intensity war like Afghanistan or Chechnya, but it’s not like they don’t have a lot of the other variant either.
*nitpick*
The Sankt Petersburg is Lada-class, not Amur. 🙂
Fighter
– Sukhoi is already doing Su-35BM- just take that, replace Iribs with an AESA. That’s all.
Fighter-Bomber
– Re-engine the F-111 with modern turbofans, an AESA radar, the most modern FLIR pod it can take, and the full range of modern PGMs.
– Ground Support
– Take the Su-39, give it a modern glass cockpit, replace Shkval with an F-35 type system (without the air search function, what’s the point), replace Kop’yo with an AESA equivalent, replace Vikhr with the new Hermes ATGM as well as Brimstone, JDAMs, etc. Re-engine it with suitable turbofans for an increase in performance and range- a suitably up-powered version of the Yak-130s engines have already been proposed for the purpose.
Strategic Bomber
– Tu-160: replace the engines with modern ones, extending range and performance while increasing reliability, all glass cockpit, AESA attack radar in the nose, bombsight replaced by a modern high-quality FLIR system, new missile and EW systems, towed decoys.
(same goes for Tu-95 and Tu-22M3).
And would you think it’s justified to shoot 30 of these extremely expensive (and still doubtful) missiles at a simple group that you could actually kill with a couple of Harpoon sized (and cost) missiles?
Absolutely, because Harpoon-sized (and cost) missiles have far, far less range, thus exposing you to attack, and are easier to shoot down, being slower and lighter. And further, while the Granit is expensive- it’s much, much cheaper than any naval vessel bigger than a patrol boat. Blowing up any ship with a Granit is a good trade-off if that ship can hurt you. Frigates and up will be the most cost-effective targets.
The long range of Granit and its predecessors and Vulkan, is just meant to be an anti-CVBG weapon, this kept them out of range of the aircraft. For any other SAG, for example Chinese, a much shorter range weapon would suffice (although we don’t know the exact range of YJ-83 yet).
It would “suffice”, but I’d rather have massive overkill.
If they would indeed want to justify such a missile system in service, they indeed could add land-attack capability to it. On the other hand, they could just push that huge space on Kirov full of Kh-55 or other cruise missiles too, that would give her quite some more punch in that role.
Not Russia’s doctrine. Russia isn’t interested in “power projection” in the American sense. That’s why none of their naval vessels have significant land attack capability- just big, supersonic anti-ship missiles to ward off attackers. That’s unlikely to change.
Erm- look really menacing to people who have no idea that the range of Iskander-M is only about 400km or so 🙂
The Kirov system was designed to attack carrier groups. Maintaining that capability would be useful, but to justify it you would need another use.
I don’t know, I think the usefulness of the Granit system as employed on every platform it’s used is well justified simply by the fact that it could sink a group of ships from any Navy, aircraft carrier or not. Indeed, an aircraft carrier battlegroup is the most difficult target, but so long as you have a healthy arsenal of SSGNs, BCGNs, and the Adm. Kuznetsov equipped with Granits, the countries that would even think about trying to mess with your Navy would be on a very short list.
Why has my thread title being edited about something completely and utterly irrelevant to the original topic?
Stand-off still has it’s uses- and improving the range doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll fire it from further away- you can fire it with say, a sea-hugging flight profile and it’ll be able to go much further than before. That said, the system is new so I’m pretty sure we’ll see some significant improvement in performance.
As far as the subs are concerned, remember this new system is being fitted on the Oscar IIs, so it’s only natural Adm. Nakhimov and Peter the Great get it as well. Probably Kuznetsov as well.
Probably they’ll simply keep the Granit airframe and replace the engine, “avionics” etc of the missile. Considering the Granit is what, over two decade old technology, what they can come up with now should be pretty sweet.
Israel doesn’t make aircraft- their Phalcon is going to be on the A-50 airframe- A-50EI.
Because their internal fuel load is so large that there’s no need for it in any remotely normal combat situation. However, Jane’s in an article claimed that the Su-27SM (or more likely SKM?) modernization includes the ability to carry a pair of 2,000 litre external fuel tanks, but I can’t imagine why the RuAF would bother, just like it seems they didn’t bother with the IFR probe of the Su-27SKM.
For the record, I thought that Belarus had denied it was getting Su-30Ks?
Nuclear cruiser Admiral Nakhimov included in State Arms Program
This should guarantee the needed overhaul.
2006-05-26 17:13
The repairs should take 3-4 years. The spent nuclear fuel unloading could be started a few years ago, but the due to the financial problems it has not happened and this stops all the works. The workers can only dismantle the equipment and send it to the manufacturers for repairs.
The interim overhaul includes the new computerised equipment, which should be installed instead of the old radio-electronic equipment. Besides, the Granit (Shipwwreck) missile system will be changed for a newer system. The new system is ready for installation at the Russian Oskar-II [sic] nuclear submarines, the same will be installed at the cruiser, which is expecting nuclear fuel reloading at the Sevmash plant now.
The Russian Heavy Missile Cruise Ship, Project 1144.2 Kirov Class was built by the Baltic Shipyard in Saint Petersburg. The Kirov Class provides the capability to engage large surface ships and to defend the fleet against air and submarine attack. Four cruisers were built but only Admiral Nakhimov (commissioned in 1988) and Pyotr Velikhiy (commissioned in 1995) remain active.
From Bellona.