VympelWasn’t there a post by a bloke called Infinity on this thread? Either way, just so everyone knows, my reduced participation is due to too much damn work 🙁
VympelThe MiG-31 already had a refuelling probe. The MiG-31B is a new-build, upgraded, modified version designed to remedy the divulging of the Zaslon’s radars secrets by a US spy, and the MiG-31BS is an upgraded version of original MiG-31s to that standard.
Vympeler… any links to Su-30MK2 specs?
which radar is gonna be put on the Su-27SM?
“Gonna be put”? It’s already in service. Anyway, here’s the lowdown:
The Su-27SM upgrade package uses upgrades previously developed for the two-seat Su-30MKK multirole fighter for China. The cockpit of Su-27SM has been equipped with two MFI-9 (7 x 5in) multi-function liquid crystal displays in a similar way to the Ramenskoye avionics design bureau’s configuration for the Su-30MKK, but adding a single 4 x 5-in. multifunction color display (mounted in between the larger displays) as well as an improved SILS-27M HUD.
A new radar computer and software makes it possible to use the R-77. The radar’s resistance to jamming has been improved. The new radar computer and software also allows 2 targets to be engaged simulatenously, and the massive increase in processing power over the original N001 has allowed long range search range to be increased to 135-150km compared to 80-100km for the original. New functions such as identification of target type, selection of a single target within a group, and indication of hovering helicopters is also added.
In ground mode, the radar allows for terrain mapping, moving target indication, and indicating ground targets for precision-guided munitions.
The radar upgrade is possibly designated N001V or N001VP, it’s unclear, but what is known is that the most ‘sensitive’ technology, in particular the new computers, are not applied in the Chinese Su-30MKK/Su-30MK2 aircraft.
An A737 GPS receiver has been installed.
The OEPS-27 IRST system has been replaced by the OEPS-30-I (31E-MK). The range of the laser rangefinder is 10 km against ground and 8 km against air targets. It can also illuminate targets for the Kh-29L missile, the only laser-guided weapon used by Su-27SM.
Air-to-air functions are handled by the SUV-V tactical computer system (a modified SUV-27 from standard Su-27s), while air-to-ground functions are handled by a separate SUV-P unit with its own computer. The system is a modification of the SUV-30 from the Su-30MKK. It enables precision bombing using a laser rangefinder and inertial navigation system for digital impact-point calculation, as well as the use of TV-guided weapons, including Kh-29T and Kh-59M missiles and KAB-500Kr and KAB-1500Kr TV guided bombs. The SUV-P can also process radar information working in a passive mode for SEAD missions, providing targeting information for Kh-31P missiles. For maritime strike, the system provides targeting information from the radar working in active or passive modes for Kh-31A anti-ship missiles.
During the overhaul work that accompanies the modernization process, the airframe is strengthened in order to increase the allowable take-off weight to 30,450kg (formerly 28,300kg), allowing a significant increase in armament payload. The aircraft’s combined analog fly-by-wire and mechanical flight-control system is replaced by a new all-digital fly-by-wire system. The Su-27SM has also been adapted for modernized engines with increased thrust, but these are not yet fitted. Modernization work on the aircraft’s AL-31F engines, increasing thrust to 137kN, is being carried out separately (AL-31FM2 engine)
Airborne range can by increased by the use of two 2,000-litre external fuel tanks, while a retractable air-to-air refueling probe is also installed (resulting in an offset IRST as on other IFR equipped FLANKERs).
Sukhoi plans a second stage upgrade to the Su-27SM from 2005, introducing solutions applied to the Su-27M (Su-35). This will mainly comprise installation of a new ‘quiet’ radar and electro-optic targeting pod. Various types of radar are being considered, including Phazotron’s Zhuk-MS and Zhuk-MF; but it seems most likely that the traditional co-operation between Sukhoi and the NIIP company will continue, with the N011M Bars radar being considered. The aircraft will be equipped with the new L175 Khibiny electronic warfare system and will be able to carry new types of weapon.
Vympelyea vympel bout what about extra pylons, combat load, range, radar upgrade, which ASMs, etc
It doesn’ have extra pylons, combat load is increased, radar is upgraded with new processors/control systems, TV-guided ASMs, Kh-31s etc etc. IFR probe, new offset IRST, new ECM system, etc etc. Just a domestic Su-30MK2, ok?
VympelWhat exactly of the Su-27SM (compared to the baseline Flanker)??
It’s a basic Su-27 upgraded to a standard similar to that of the Su-30MK2. Glass cockpit, air to ground etc etc …
VympelTwo MiG-31BM upgrade prototypes exist, but they haven’t entered testing due to lack of funding. Plans are there, though. They won’t be scrapped.
VympelThey should just give that Slava back to Russia.
VympelSu-24Ms (in active service? 300?)
500 actually. The Su-24 is the single most numerous aircraft type in VVS service. Being upraded to Su-24SM, but don’t know how many.
Su-25s (upgrading to SM Status) (how many upgraded? 400 in service total?)
225. Don’t know how many to be upgraded, but at least a regiment’s worth.
Su-39s (in production) (60 or so?)
Not in serial production, none in service. Some pre-production in testing for a possible entry into service however.
Su-34s (currently in production, which radar? how many delivered?)
None delivered. First “series standard” prototype completed late last year. Production to commence 2005, service entry in 2006.
Mig-29S (400 in service, 180 or so being upgraded to SMT status)
400 or so MiG-29s, not MiG-29S.
Su-27s (400 in service? what the heck are they doing with them?)
Upgrade to Su-27SM status. Currently the most advanced upgrade program, the VVS has eight aircraft so far (first delivered to the VVS for Christmas last year) with IIRC 20 more to be upgraded this year.
Mig-31s (300 in service? how many upgraded, if any?)
Around 280. None upgraded.
Tu-22M3s (200 in service? upgrading?)
More liek 150. Tu-22M5 upgrade planned, 2 stages. Not known it’s progress.
Tu-95MS-6/16 (40 of each in service? what are they doing with em?)
All Tu-95MS16s are being upgraded to Tu-95MSM standard- this upgrade began in 1998/1999. Don’t know how many, but it’s for Kh-101/Kh-102 and Kh-555 cruise missile compatibility. The Tu-95MS6s wont be.
Tu-160 (being put into production, how many in service?)
*ahem*
– 6 original aircraft at Engels (reduced to 5 after Mikhail Gromov was lost last year)
– 2 of the 6 aircraft at Zhukovsky earmarked for upgrade to operational status (4 of the 6 are airworthy, and presumably one of the aircraft that was not airworthy was the aircraft “destroyed” in investigating the loss of the Mikhail Gromov)
– 8 aircraft delivered from Ukraine
– 1 new aircraft from KAPO delivered in May 2000
– 1 new aircraft completed by KAPO in 2001, but delivered in 2003*
– Feb 2004: reported that 3 Tu-160s still on the assembly line will be built at Kazan[/quote]
20 aircraft is the maximum, right now it’s 15. Being upgraded along similar lines as the Tu-22M5 and Tu-95MSM.
Tu-142 (Tu-95 X?) (How many in service? Plans?)
No idea.
is the Ka-50/50-2 being put into service with Russian forces?
Ka-50, no. Ka-50-2, no. Ka-52, yes, but only in small numbers for special forces. The Mi-28N is the Mi-24 replacement.
VympelThe Su-34 has a toilet, small galley with a microwave (“heating closet”), the pilot seats have a massage function, and there’s enough room to lie down in the space between the seats. I haven’t heard anything about a folding bed.
VympelThe total payload for the B-1 Lancer is listed as 134000lbs which I imagine would be including external hardpoints. On the other hand, the Tu-160 Blackjack has a maximum payload of ninety thousand pounds.
B-1B maximum internal payload is 34,020kg (75,000lb) and you expect us to believe that it’s external hardpoints is 59,000lb more? That sounds like nonsense to me.
VympelChabanenko is the only Udaloy that is NOT an ASW destoyer… Someone must have mixed there.
It’s still classified as a Large Antisubmarine Ship. It’s just that they removed the SS-N-14s- it still has ASW firepower without them; SS-N-15s/SS-N-16s IIRC? Could be wrong though. The Moskits were added for “balance”, since it couldn’t really defend itself from surface targets with SS-N-14s, even if they’re capable of it.
VympelWhat China, Russia and Ukraine need is somethings like a C-17. Perhaps they can develop something new instead of keep building older designs.
Il-106, the replacement for the Il-76. Though the Il-76MF is a respectable transport aircraft in that regard.
The An-70 doesn’t really fall into the C-17 category.
VympelFor some reason I doubt the Ukranians would be too interested in giving up their An-124 commercial-lift monopoly (in conjunction with Russia, which also participates) to China. Most likely, they’ll tell them to either buy or take a hike.
Also, it’s hardly two and two equals four, as demand for the An-124 has been steadily increasing. It only makes sense to build more to take advantage of the heavy lift commercial market.
VympelThere are about 8 Delta III class SSBNs, of which Ryazan and Borisoglebsk are known.
More than that. For example, back in March the K-433 Svyatoy Georgiy Pobedonosets was repaired and returned to service.
More here:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/667BDR.htm
Also, I hear the Vepr is an Akula II- while the Gepard is held by some to be actually an “Akula III”- since the Vepr, judging from it’s pictures in port at Brest, has the dorsal stern “pod” like previous types, even though its been confirmed to be 4m longer than previous Akula types.
Some say that new tech was incorporated into the Gepard that allowed the elimination of the pod, hence the K-335 Gepard is actually an “Akula III”, so to speak.
This is just something I heard.
VympelVepr has already docked- a picture is available of it at Brest.
But the Sov is in a very bad state and the russians being the proud people they are, don’t like to admit it.
The Sov? Huh? What’s a Sov?
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