The Su-37 as an aircraft project still exists. It’s probably being constructed right now.
In all liklihood, the Kh-65/65SE is dead. The Kh-SD, whatever it is and whatever similiarity it bears to the Kh-65, doesn’t seem to be however.
The problem is of course that the conventional shorter range weapon being based on the larger weapon takes up the same space on the aircraft.
True, but it doesn’t weigh nearly as much.
It was weird because it said that the Kh-65 was integrated onto the Su-35 and Su-37.
Are any of these missiles being integrated onto them?
Either intergrated or may be intergrated, I’m unsure.
It was my understanding that the Kh-SD/65s were merely Kh-55s and/or Kh-555s with the seeker developed for the Kh-101 fitted that would be used for strategic missions where nuclear warheads were not needed.
The Kh-555 is conventional as well.
As such they would be used by strategic aircraft and not therefore be bound by the limitation in range. The main reason for their reduction in range is mainly due to their mission of engaging mobile naval targets, which would restrict their range due to their speed. ie by the time a 3,000km range subsonic missile arrives the target vessel could be anywhere. Flying low all the way to the target will halve the range of the weapon anyway plus the larger bulkier warhead and terminal guidance systems further reduce the range of the weapon.
The Kh-SD/65? is the land-attack version- it’s fitted with the Kh-101 equipment and requires the Sigma mission planning system, just like the Kh-101/102 and Kh-555.
Only the Kh-65SE is for anti-ship, it has an active radar terminal seeker, which is much more appropriate than the Kh-101s terminal TV picture comparison guidance system.
Unfortunately no- I’ve only got the same info as you- Tupolev Bombers 🙂
It has a triangular shaped nose section that is supposed to reduce rcs and improve aerodynamics. It is rather unlikely to enter widespread service as Yakhont can perform a similar role at similar range but at much higher speed.
Kh-SD will, I think, but Kh-65SE is probably dead.
The Domestic model might retain a 600km range in the anti ship role and be used by aircraft like the Tu-142. It is just a diversification of the Kh-55 missile. The Kh-101 seems to be the way forward and conventional models of it are more likely to be used.
Well, unless the target isn’t worth using a 5,000km range CALCM on- that seems to be the idea to me.
The main use for the Kh-65 in my opinion would be to use up all of the unused Kh-55s when they are replaced or time expired.
I’m pretty sure the Kh-SD/65? is a new manufacture airframe- after all, the Kh-55s are being turned into Kh-555s (well, not all of them).
hmmm. Not sure exactly where that is, looking at the scale plans…
I don’t think the MiG 1.44 prototype had them, but the actual ‘MFI’ aircraft (unbuilt?) supposedly does. I assume in an F/A-22 style configuration- belly for the BVR missiles, sides of the intakes for WVR missiles.
Greece
SA-10 (S-300 PMU1), Patriots (PAC-3), I-HAWK (Phase III) ,Nike-Herc (abolished), SA-8, SA-15 (TOR-M1), Skyguard (Aspide, Artemis), Crotale-NG, Stingers.
I thought Greece had PAC-2, not PAC-3.
It’s conflating two different missiles:
Kh-SD (Kh-65?): Information about the Kh-SD partly tallies with the data for the Kh-65, when a small brochure about it was issued. The Kh-65’s weight is smaller (may be the result of additional fuel tanks in Kh-SD) and the guidance system is different. According to the initial 1992 information, the Kh-65 was intended for attacks against stationary targets of known coordinates and its homing system was to be similar to that of the Kh-101 (inertial-Doppler navigation with electro-optical position correction) but without a terminal homing system. The range of Kh-65 was quoted as 580-600km.
Will have a launch weight of 1,600kg and will have a conventioanl penetrating (deep fortifications, command posts) or cassette warhead (arifields and surface targets) weighing 400kg. 580-600km range at least.
The Kh-SD makes use of the Sigma missile launch system, intertial navigation with electro-optical correcton, and the TV terminal seeker.
Kh-65SE
Anti-Ship version with 250-280km range, active radar seeker. Luanch weight 1250kg. As described in the globalsecurity entry, basically.
“Kh-SD” may be a description for the family of weapons they’re designing, of which Kh-65 may be a part, or, the specs of Kh-65 got upgraded to Kh-SD.
Anyway- the upgraded Tu-95MS16 (Tu-95MSM), Tu-160 (Tu-160SM??) and Tu-22M3 (Tu-22M5) will use that missile family- Kh-SD, Kh-555, Kh-101/Kh-102- all use the new Kh-101 guidance system and Sigma Mission Planning System. Also a new supersonic weapon is planned.
Tu-22M5 will additionally use the Kh-32 (new Kh-22).
Doubt it. There’s not enough for both.
At the moment, yes. MiG seems to want to woo the VVS over with promises of cheaper development because of work already done. Not to mention a bloody huge fighter. There’s nothing to stop the avionics work being done being used on the MiG instead of the PAK FA, and the engines of the PAK FA will still find use on the Su-27IB/Su-34 as well as Su-27/30 fleets.
I’m of mixed feelings. I always wanted to see the MFI enter service (I want anything with two 175kN engines to enter service!).
Note: The XXJ program is no small deal nor is it a paper project. Design and testing is very far along. It is made public with pictures of models in windtunnels and repeated assertions that technologies for it are already being developed.
That may be, but there’s no way from one grainy picture of a windtunnel model and a few assertions that may be the XXJ (or J-XX? Anyway-) that you can possibly guage how far along development it is.
The XXJ is a national prestige project that is highly unlikely to be bought from overseas with its technology held hostage by another nation.
Russia won’t sell it’s 5th generation fighter design to China anyway, so I don’t think it’s even an issue.
I have not seen anything about PAK-FA making good progress recently, so perhaps Russia itself is looking for a indigenous backup solution by resuming MiG 1.44 development?
No. This is MiG’s attempt. See the article I posted (that noone seems to have posted in, despite the fact it’s in English) 🙂
God its ugly.
Here here. Must we have a new thread everytime someone in Pakistan farts? If it’s a *confirmed* aircraft deal, fine. But I’m sick to death of “Pakistan may end up getting new spanners for its Mirages” or some such nonsense.