Bump due to new MiG 1.44 news.
Please God, no more F-16s. Ever.
Isn’t it implied that America’s going to foot the bill for it in some way 🙂
8,000 S-300s?
“By 2000, there were some 1,900 plus S-300P launchers in the Russian air defense force. These had not only replaced the S-25 system but had basically supplanted the S-75 (US/NATO codename SA-2 `Guideline’) and S-125 (US/NATO codename SA-3 `Goa’) static SAM systems.”
Jane’s Land Based Air Defense.
So almost 2,000. Still the most impressive air defense capability on the face of the planet- growing steadily with the introduction of the S-400 (finally!) and the upgrading of existing S-300P launchers to ‘Favorit-S’ standard (similar to S-300PMU-) and the upgrading of point defense capability by the planned acquisition of wheeled full-standard (e.g. Tunguska style turret) Panstyr-S1 systems.
is there a such thing as Su-39? i thought there was only a Su-35/37 Super Flanker and S-37/Su-47 Berkut
The Su-39 is an upgraded Su-25. It’s also known as Su-25TM. It’s predecessor design is the Su-25T, which Ethiopia apparently has.
That is quite inappropriate parallel. F-86 was designed at the end of 40’s while MiG-29 was designed during seventies.
It’s a very appropriate parallel, considering that 30 years is practically how old the Russian ADS equipment Serbia has is.
Of course. But I derive pleasure from his continuous stream of non-answers and ridiculous statements. “Evasion training” is the latest in dumb-assery. 😀
That decision was largely influenced by unacceptably low performance of Russian weapon systems during 1999 conflict.
Idiots.
“Our F-86 Sabres didn’t perform as planned against enemy MiG-29s. We are consequently replacing all American equipment with more modern, Russian equipment.”
Oh really? What about the quality of engine. Does it really produce the
intended power according to its specification after some use or wear and
tear is degrading it quickly. I am sure i read about GE engines somewhere
but could not remember now.
Complete bibberish.
Why acceralation is not important to engage and disengage.
Then why don’t you all tell us about it then? Let me guess: because you don’t know, and are just throwing out whatever pops into your head to try and evade responsibility for making your own argument.
You made a claim about Flanker superiority in flight perforomance over
F-16 without backing up.
No, *you* made a claim regarding “acceleration” without bothering to back it up. It’s not incumbent on me to prove your claims for you. As for your thinking that the F-16 could possibly be anywhere close to the Flanker in flight performance, I suggest you take some medication for your condition, as I’m not going to bother explaining for the umpteenth time why a heavy fighter beats a lighter fighter, especially an Su-30MKI.
i have something from FAS site.
Only someone of your calibre could treat that as a mark of distinction.
F-16 has only 2sqfeet of extra space while F-15 has 15 sqfeet of space.
So it is obvious.
I’m getting tired of having to explain uncontroversial facts to you- the F-16C was *designed* with space for an internal jammer, space that the USAF did not use, despite the jammer being available.
African nations do not count. They don’t have the adequate evading
training.
ROFLMAO!!!! The abject stupidity of this quote speaks for itself. Please provide your evidence that “African nations” do not have “evasion training”.
Exercises donot mimick reality.In war other vairables are involved.
Describe these variables. See, it’s called “you fight as you train and you train as you fight”, and it’s what gives military forces an edge. Clearly this is lost on you.
And if you do subscribe to this ridiculous idea, then I’m sorry but AIM-9X hasn’t been proven in anything. Sorry.
There is no reason for him to be biased among US, EU and Russia.
Oh, of course not, after all, he’s just the designer of the SD-10, he’s a paragon of objectivity.
:rolleyes:
What about non-afterburning thurst
Nothing to do with wing loading either.
acceleration
What about it?
MTBO hrs.
This has what to do with performance in the air?
How much time to reach a particular speed, maintaing that speed.
You tell me.
It is obvious that IAF and RMAF is not using it.
The USAF rejected the use of internal jammers intended for it’s F-16Cs, despite there being space in the airframe designed for them. I guess that means they’re crap.
I know they have been around for very long time. What is their actual
success?
Tested extensively in the hands of the Luftwaffe vs NATO airforces post reunification of Germany. Attributed with the majority of kills in Ethiopia vs Eritrea conflict. And these are the basic mdoels. By comparison, AIM-9X has no “actual success”. However, I am not facetious enough to pretend that the lack of actual combat kills means something.
Regarding R-77. It is plain obvious that Chief designer put Meteor and AIM-
120C above SD-10 and R-77 even below AIM-120A. Ask him
Well, if the “designer of the SD-10” said it, it *MUST* be true, after all, it’s not like he’s biased or anything …
Before we all get carried away, I’d remind you that the Russian government will most certainly not give MiG a free-hand to hand over a 5th gen fighter design to another country purely for their own commercial gain. If its not in Russia’s national interests (and unless PAK FA falls out of favor, which it wont, it isnt), any talk of the 1.44 going to China is pure pipe-dream.
how F-16 is overweight when it has 15000KG engine?
Wing loading has nothing to do with engine thrust. You’d think people would know this on an aviation forum 😀
And I am afraid
Flanker EW suite is not upto F-16 par.
Prove it.
Malaysia chose SA avitronics and
some other countries also. And now don’t try to equate JHMCS, AIM-9X or
AIM-120 with any thing russian.
ROFL! I can and I will- R-73 and HMS has been around for 20 years before JHMCS and AIM-9X, and the latest R-73s either equal or exceed AIM-9X depending on the parameters. As for AMRAAM vs R-77, **EDITED BY WM **clearly, you think “it’s American” decides the issue. Seriosuly, stop embarassing yourself.
The PAK FA range requirement is a 1,200km combat radius (to operate from the few airfields in more remote regions of Russia)- similar to that of the Su-27 (which is given as 1,200-1,500km, depending on the source). That’s the range requirement before it was reported that it’ll be the size of the Su-27 and that it’s weight was reported back in 2002 as “heavier than previously planned”.
Course, it’s a rare thing for a fighter to not put on weight during development. They’ve already said they’re going for “better than the F-35 and equal to the F-22”, so a new Flanker-class isn’t surprising.
S-300VM ‘Antey-2500’ would be best, though the cost is prohibitive. The S-300V series is more mobile than the P series, because the V series is tracked.
At the very least, the Kubs should be replaced with Buk-M1-2s.
They’re crazy- there’s no way it’ll be cheaper than PAK FA, not at that weight.