This morning saw an unusual visitor to these parts – a Yellow and Blue Stearman trotting the circuit at Gamston
Good for you “Johnnie”, it comes to something when,not only is the national memorial to Bomber command funded by charity, but it is then topped by the national disgrace that this government cannot find itself to honour a campaign medal which has been denied to the surviving crewmen since 1945.
Yet (despite the fact they deserve them, no so offence intended) the French are giving the D-Day veterans long overdue Leigion D’honnour medals.
Still, I may not be in a position to offer the ” Bomber Boys ” a medal, but I’m glad to be part of the generation that feels they are owed the greatest respect.
I know if lead the country, I’d make sure they got one.
Good for you “Johnnie”, it comes to something when,not only is the national memorial to Bomber command funded by charity, but it is then topped by the national disgrace that this government cannot find itself to honour a campaign medal which has been denied to the surviving crewmen since 1945.
Yet (despite the fact they deserve them, no so offence intended) the French are giving the D-Day veterans long overdue Leigion D’honnour medals.
Still, I may not be in a position to offer the ” Bomber Boys ” a medal, but I’m glad to be part of the generation that feels they are owed the greatest respect.
I know if lead the country, I’d make sure they got one.
So sad to see this one “go under the radar”, I felt it was a nice addition at Firbeck, given that they operated a few locally at RAF Worksop.
It seems a shame that it has been passed from pillar to post.
And what about the smaller UK museums? there are one or two that have a significant Spitfire connection (who could put one under cover) that would not get a look in.
( I did ask the RAFM if they would consider a loan, but no chance!)
Anyone shed some light on this one?
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Looking at the Photo, I am inclined to think they are 616 Squadron Spitfires. The first aircraft shows the individual “W” behind the roundel, while it is the “QJ” squadron codes ( which do not appear to be to standard dimentions) on the second and third aircraft.
if this is the case, there is a possible explanation for the off size codes. Many years ago I was told by a former 616 squadron member that on some of the 1939-1940 aircraft, the codes were painted by a groundcrew member who worked as a liveries painter for the rail company at Doncaster prior to being called up.
it was said that he had not been given the official code sizes, so he painted them as he thought right.
hope this helps
Rad
Well said. Operating a Meteor makes sense.
And why not, the type was first operated by “South Yorkshire’s Own- 616Sqn, the T7 (in question) operated with 215 AFS from Finningley.
I heard that Tiger Moth R-5136 based at Worksop has suffered an accident. Anyone know if this is true – details?
How sad to hear that the Tiger Moth has crashed at Netherthorpe, though I’m pleased that both occupants are OK. For my 50th birthday July last year I had an 1/2hrs flight in N-6720, with Blue Skies Aviation,( If you can appreciate my point, I hope that this and R-5136 is not the same aircraft are not one and the same).
I hope this is not the end for this particular Tiger Moth, like them all its a joy to see them in the air.
I understand that a small batch of Lysanders were built in South Yorkshire, albeit in ??Sheffield??
As for the Westland Doncaster- something rings a bell that I’ve read or heard reference to such an aeroplane.
Regards Rad
I’m thinking of emailing my MP and asking him to ask the PM to make a statement of thanks to Canada, in Parliament, for assisting in the rembrance of the lost crews of Bomber Command. Do you guys think such a request is silly, or worthwhile?
I dont think it is a silly request at all. It wouldn’t harm the government to make such a public statement.
To add my thanks to the Canadians, it has been a wonderful gesture on their part, I just hope the opportunity arrises again sometime in the future.
If I may add, if anyone from the CWHM is reading this, should there be time, could they please take the chance to fly over the Stonefall cemetery at Harrogate please? It is here that many of those who served and died in the RCAF Bomber squadrons are laid to rest.
Start looking for a new venue for the majority of the collection. In my view there is so little space left at Hendon for expansion of the collection and so little of the ‘original’ Hendon airfield left that it should be reduced to a much smaller ‘London’ enclave (not that it is exactly in London anyway).
Is there any surviving RAF airfield that is near London, historically significant, and suitable for airshows?
Yes, Uxbridge would be an ideal candidate IMO. For starters it has the underground HQ, which is a cracking place to visit.:)
I was lucky enough to go to the same event Radpoe Meteor, was an amazing night, the other chap was Eric Quinney I believe ,flew P for Popsie in the Dambusters film, there’s a short documentary about him here, very interesting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMtS4B72h48
Hello Jack, thank you for correcting Eric’s surname for me, much appreciated.:)
And what a wonderful fellow to have chance to meet. I read about a book signing taking part at Tuxford with Johnny signing “the Last Dambuster”.
He was there with another fellow, Eric Dennison (I hope I got his name right),who flew one of the Lancasters for the film.
Although I was halfway through working nights, I got up special to take my Son & Daughter to meet them. When I got to the shop we were the only ones there (it was about 15 mins before closing time) . On my introduction I asked johnny if he remembered the navigator Jack Warner, who’s aircraft ( AJ-K) was shot down over the Zuider Zee, to which he did. when he told me what he knew,I said ” thank you for your memories of him, may I introduce Ellie & Harvey, Jack’s Great, great Niece & Nephew”.
His reaction was priceless- the most wonderful smile was follwed by him making a fuss of them both, insisting of having his picture taken with them and us spending 3/4 of an hour there before he drove back home to Bristol- not bad for a 93 y/o!!!!
What was an opportunity to meet one of my Heroes had become an unforgetable momement.
Disgusting, but sadly all too often. I doubt the perpertrators will get caught, but they deserve to be.
I often used to go to the farm when I was based at Brize Norton, trying to find out what still exhisted at Windrush & remember the plaque had not been put up very long then.
I hope the stone memorial doesn’t suffer the same fate as the Bronze one- the cruel irony is the latter was off the beaten track, so was likely pilfered by opportunists.
The memory of Sgt Hancock deserves better.
regards Rad
Quote: A rough attempt at translation would be:
‘F. (Radio?) T.A. stab (staff) kdo (command) schiffe (ship) u Boote (U-boat)’Not “U-boats”: “Schiffe u. Boote” simply means “Ships and Boats”
Ah, the penny has dropped- for me anyway- rather than the “u” meaning Untersee, it’s “und” abbreiviated.