Thanks Tony
That means a lot to us… and particularly me.
Dave
That tribute is superb Dave(the P-40 is a beauty BTW),the story is fantastic.
Many thanks for posting it up.
Definitely 1988.
One in the static,I stroked the underside of it’s port wing and got a good
thumping from my mate because the great big bloke on guard with it
was giving me a very,very hard stare(he made his M-16 look like a toy gun).
The flyer snook out from behind Det 4’s hanger and gave us a right royal
display.
The first and last time I’ve ever seen one fly,very,very impressive.
And yes,the burgers were huge at the ‘Hall.
The other thing that stuck in the memory was the guys riding around in those big GMC pick-ups with a rubber sheet in the back full of ice,water and beers.
We got fairly piffed on Miller and Budweiser IIRC:D:D
Great days indeed.
Sorry but that statment is wrong LLA have put in about 100k over the last ten years to the project paying for the refurb of frame 5, the fin unit, engine bearer and 30k of the total for the installation of mod 502 to the wings, wing fuel tanks. Without their help TE would not be as she is today
Glad to know we’ve helped you out with her Paul.
Hats off to you and the boys in the BBMF hanger,you’ve done a superb job
with TE.
Cousin and I have watched her slowly take shape over the past 6-7 years when we’ve been over for the LLA Members Days.
It’s been facinating to look her over “at close quaters” and watch her go
from a primered fuselage with a sparesly fitted and furnished cockpit to
what she is today.
She’ll look and sound fantastic in the air with MK no doubt.
Mark
Sold into private hands I believe.
Yes,that is a real shame.
She was a very nice aeroplane when she was in Cosford’s museum some years ago.
Mark
It could be Peter Teichmans Spitfire
PL965(Pete T’s PR.XI) doesn’t have stripes on anymore either.
In 1963 I believe. The 215 is a great engine, being the narrowest V8 ever built. The resultant scale of my Spit was derived from the scale width of the Buick exhaust manifold mating faces plus 3 inches for riser stubs to put the fishtailed collectors in the correct position in the cowling.
The Buick/Rover 215c.i/3.5ltr V8 was enlarged by TVR to 4.2ltr and used in the Chimera sports car amongst others.
My mate has one fitted in his 1973 Ford Capri.
It was originaly fuel injected,but he runs it with a 4 barrel Holley suitably
jetted with gives him a nice 230bhp.
Probably the best light and narrow V8 would TVR’s own AJP8,either the
4.2 or 4.5ltr versions:
Like most Ferraris, the Cerbera’s AJP8 engine uses a flat-plane crank. “Flat-plane” means that the crank throws are all in a single plane – i.e. if you laid the crank on a desk it would be flat. Laying the crank of a conventional (twin-plane) V8 on a desk would result in a very three-dimensional wobbly thing sitting there. In both cases however, the desk will get very oily. With a twin plane you get eight evenly spaced firing intervals for every two complete engine revolutions, but the downside is that you can’t take advantage of exhaust pulse extraction effects since the manifold design is prohibitive. The Cerbera’s flat plane crank means that the engine (essentially) becomes two four cylinder engines operating on a common crankshaft, so the exhaust design is made like a traditional 4-2-1 set up to take advantage of pulse tuning effects.
Thus a flat-plane crank produces an engine that is more powerful but rougher in nature. It also means that the engine sounds like a pair of four cylinder engines together, rather than the classic “warble” of a V8 (e.g. the Rover engines used in Griffiths and Chimaeras). As a point of useless trivia, a four cylinder engine in a “boxer” configuration, as used by old Alfas, Beetles and of course the Subaru Impreza sounds like a classic V8.
The unusual exhaust sound is made even more weird by the “V” angle not being 90 degrees. Its 75 degree angle means the engine doesn’t behave exactly like two four-cylinder engines since instead of the firing intervals being 90 + 90 degrees apart they are 75 + 105 degrees apart.
I bet you didn’t really want all that gory detail, did you? And I bet you’re now wanting to know what “pulse effects” are? Basically its a technique where exhaust gets actively sucked out of the cylinders by the exhaust system, due to standing waves being set up in the exhaust pipes. Better? I didn’t think so….
Here’s a 4.5 AJP8 engined Cerbera in action with 300+bhp escaping :diablo::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VshqCSPjVcg&feature=related
That would really liven your beautiful Spit up 😉
Mark
I could not possibly answer that as its me doing it – but a great deal of research has gone in to getting the detailing as close to Mk XI standard as humanly possible. The stencils are about 80% complete at the moment and its going to be a week or two before she is totally finished.
Thankyou Steve.
I reckon that just about answers my question,she’s about 80% stencilled now,
but in a couple of weeks she’ll be fully stencilled.
So full stencilling it is for my rendition.
Thanks mate,have you ever stencilled a Spitfire in 1/72nd scale!!!!!:eek:
Mark;)
Was it on BBC or ITV ? see if its on I player or something !
Steve
ITV 1 I think.
Vorderman was presenting,not sure about Amy(I drank the)Winehouse though.
Mark
The old ones are usually the best ones!! I think someone on another thread said that it was the late, great Ray Hanna at the helm. There are some truly hairy low flying clips on You Tube, of which this is one of the best.
T’was indeed Ray doing the “driving” in his trusty steed,MH434 and it was Alain De Cadanet who had the sh1tes put up him:D.
Rumour had it that the producer kept going for more takes because he reckoned Ray wasn’t getting ‘434 low enough so on that pass he must have thought I’ll give ’em low,save the Duxford grass cutters a job and old De Cadanet a few quid at the barbers while I’m at it.
Seriously though,it really is a great testament to Ray’s superb skills and his full confidence in MH434 to do what he wanted just when he wanted her to do it.
Mark
I’m sure that’d be a very good start for him if you could do the honors old boy.
Mark
Well, as as speak this is the closest we’ll get to seeing the Sea Balliol – Found in the model section between the two museum hangars.
Martin
Saw this myself Martin.
Very impressive I thought in about 1/24th scale..
Whilst I was leering at it,cousin Edgeler,knowning about my love of FAA
machinery,mumbled something like”I’m watching you,you’d love to get your hands on that”:D
Mark
Ooh,that was a bit bouncy.
Like’s been said,it just shows how strong that undercart is.
The deflection on the stb’d leg must’ve been measured in inches rather than
millimeters.
What was safer though?let it bounce and make it stick or open up to go around again?
Given the prop torque that must be produced,he probably took the safer option and yes,if it’d have been a 109 or Buchon I too reckon there’d have been a clatter.
Mark
Aha,Mr Carrich I presume.
I do believe it’s you and your side kick,Pete Forster,in this matter
of a new Attacker for Fs that I’m asking the above questions
for!!!:rolleyes:
Mark:cool:
I met him about three years ago at the Lincs Lanc Members Day.
He autographed my yearbook on one of the Spit pictures.
A fine gent and as has been said,he felt he was just another bloke
who got on with the job.
My mate Tug Wilson has found a picture of the painting that was
done of Stapme overflying Von Werra’s Messerscmitt on it’s belly
in the field.
He was hoping to get him to autograph it for him the next time
we met him.
I guess Tug is just a little too late.
RIP Sir,hopefully you’re having a beer with the rest of “The Fighter Boys”.