I am deeply shocked to hear that Steve has left us. I never met him, but judging by his posts I can tell what a great person he must have been.
My thoughts are with those he left behind.
Yeah let’s hope that the serb PVO will be able to beat back NATO,do you think the Serbs will take back Kosovo ?
Your ignorance is really beginning to annoy me.
Koljedub: Yes you are right, everyone is against us Serbs, but it doesn’t matter because we always come out on top just like the turk occupation and ww1 and ww2 we always won and each time serbia got a little larger. It will be the same with the next war, and this time there will be no Milosevic to betray the Serbs.
Lika: Nato is only doing that to lull us into a false sense of security. It is fooling no one because every Serb knows who our friends are (no one) and who are enemies are (everyone). There were tons of official visits and agreements between Germany and France/Britain in the late 30’s, but war still happened.
I sincerely hope that most Serbs and Montenegrins reject your ignorant and paranoid way of thinking.
Military ties between NATO and Serbia and Montenegro have already been established – e.g. Norway provides winter training for Serb officers.
With regards to holding entries, is it hard to get used to shaping a mental picture when e.g. entering a non-standard holding, or may an ATC provide assistance?
Thanks for your answers, galdri. Stay put, I might want to ask some more in the near future.
Are we talking about actual emergency conditions here? I often experience difficulties with trusting the public media when it comes to their documentation of aviation-related events. The media has often revealed that it lacks even basic knowledge about aviation, especially when it has to do with things such as emergency conditions and forced landings.
From what I’ve read so far, it sounds to me that the French aircraft had enough endurance to “land as soon as practical.” They were not required to “land as soon as possible” or perform an actual forced landing. These are two very different courses of action.
It bothers me that the media often tends to yell “emergency landing” and/or “forced landing” every time an aircraft has to divert and conduct a safe and controlled landing at the nearest aerodrome due to reasons which are considered to be unusual, but which do not necessarily entail an imminent danger to the aircraft, the personnel aboard it or other personnel, aircraft, buildings etc.
Now, I’m not in a position to judge this particular incident. I am in fact one of those who think that this whole thing is a bit smelly, having to do with allied aircraft and all, but I want to urge some of you to exercise a more cautious and critical attitude when reviewing reports from the public media, which is unfortunately rather ill-informed in too many cases. Just have a look at earlier reports related to military air operations…
it’s just another example of how people from around the world (including Americans) who know nothing about the actual facts of an incident other than what they read in the news media and then coming to a conclusion based on their political agenda rather than the actual facts
Agree. This forum (and many other forums too, I’m sure) provides a great arena for studies of subjects ranging from political polarisation to anthropology.
Press of Atlantic City:
The pilots initially asked for permission to land Thursday at a U.S. military installation, but lacked the clearance number, said Noel Clay, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department.
Clearance number?
Perhaps the french didnt ask the permission in english :confused:
But of course, Arshad. :rolleyes:
Pure chaos and hell.
Condolences to the bereaved.
A few themes from Dimmu Borgir:
What’s up with the engine nozzles on that Tornado F.3 in photo number seven?
Did the Iraqi military possess any ARMs at all?
I found this interesting….
Anyone know whether the target information featured in the lower left corner of the display (third photo) is tactical (in direct reference to the aircraft) or based on an existing, pre-planned bullseye?
The radar can certainly tell the aircraft type on its own however.
Perhaps by comparing the detected radar signature to similar or identical signatures stored in an on-board electronic library?