Thanks for the photos Andy, here are two others I have for this incident in my database:
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Some further reading if you can source this back issue of Britain at War (Issue 59 – March 2012) from Britain at War Website:
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And or both:
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I’ve read this thread with great interest but could the original comment “Only one FW190 shot down over England” refer to actual air to air combat rather than landing in error or resulting from loss to ground fire ?
Hi, I have the following:
I have 33 Fw190s as having landed or crashed on British soil during WW2. I have the following recorded as landing in error:
23 June 1942 – Fw190A-3 – Stab III./JG2 – WNr.5313 – Oberlt. Armin Faber – RAF Pembrey
16 April 1943 – Fw190A-4 – 7./SKG10 – WNr.47155 – Fw. Otto Bechtold (Bechtolder?) – RAF West Malling
17 April 1943 – Fw190A-5 – 5./SKG10 – WNr.2719 – Lt. Fritz Setzer – RAF West Malling
17 April 1943 – Fw190A-4 – 7./SKG10 – WNr.47152 – Oberfw. Otto Schulz – Undershot the runway at RAF West Malling ended up crashing at Springetts Hill Farm, East Malling.
20 May 1943 – Fw190A-4/U-8 – 2./SKG10 – WNr.45843 – Uffz. Heinz Ehrhardt – RAF Manston
20 June 1943 – Fw190A-5/U-8 – 1./SKG10 – WNr.52596 – Uffz. Werner Oehme – RAF Manston
Silly, impractical suggestion.
Thankyou for stating the obvious Mike. You appear to have left your sense of humour at home today. I do apologise for trying to tempt it out of hiding. I must remember to never use humour on Aviation forums as it often falls on deaf ears. Although the scoundrels do actually deserve nothing better in my eyes. 🙂
Or better still, replace the warhead so when they do it again they get turned into human confetti. :dev2:
That’s right Andy, Asmus got left behind by Mölders in his faster F-1. Asmus found himself on his own against a full squadron of new MkV spits (Asmus’s reckoning because of the altitude they were at) apparently put into operation that day and to his dismay flying about 2500 ft higher than he was. So he flew towards a group of German aircraft and levelled out below them. Unluckily the German bombers then noticed the squadron of Spits that were on his tail and jettisoned their bombs. One of the bombs hit his Bf109E-4/N WNr.3737. When Asmus regained consciousness still strapped into his seat with not a lot of Bf109 left around him, he undid the buckle and the seat fell off so he could release his parachute. The next thing he remembers is that he woke up in Maidstone Hospital. The intelligence Officer wondered what on earth had happened to his aircraft because it was scattered over most of Kent. Although probably not very funny at the time I did have a quiet chuckle when I first heard the story. 🙂
Clint the force landing did occur in the accepted period of the Battle of Britain- 10th July- 31st October 1940.
Oh god here we go :D. Perhaps you’re right I tend to personally think of the Battle of Britain as Adlertag and beyond. Yellow tactical markings etc from the Luftwaffe point of view. With regards to Mölders Bf109s watch this space as they have all been chronicled from September 1939 right the way thru to the end of 1940 as ultra accurate 5 view profiles for the Eagles Over Europe project. 🙂
Two photos that I know of exist of this aircraft. One (port side) on the ground after the FL and one (starboard side) on a recovery truck. Sadly these photos are in a private collection. But you’re correct in that it does have a rather large non standard Swastika on the tail. I omitted it from the list of his aircraft above as It’s just outside the BOB imo.
Theres actually quite a few photos of Mölders Bf109Es in the BOB. If I remember correctly he specifically had three (WNr.2804, WNr.5915, & WNr.3737) whilst with JG51 and an brand Bf109F-1 (WNr.5628) SG+GW as seen in the photo linked above that he was using in October. Wick on the other hand used one aircraft (WNr.5344) during the whole of the battle, until he was shot down into the channel in it, off the Isle of Wight in November. I don’t think it was extrovert of the pilots. You may have a point with Galland though. These aces were the equivalent of modern day football stars in their day. It was everyone else who wanted photographs of them. Add to that the propaganda value. Luckily for us many of these photos have survived. 🙂
Thanks for the update Andy. Off to set up the record……
Guys, thank you. It is indeed a regional programme with each region having it’s own version of the program by the looks of things: BBC Inside Out Regions
I’ll watch the Monday 7:30 episode, hopefully it’s that one. Thanks again Andy for the heads-up.
Thanks for checking, I’ll keep an eye out for it.