Now if the same guy drives a hundred miles to go to Shoreham for example, a charity show run by volunteers, with his cameras and lenses and parks up in a nearby field and is there all day watching and photographing the show without paying a penny or attempting to get then that is freeloading. Simple
So what are you going to do? Erect huge screens around each event? Intstall a ring-loop to give an electromagnetic pulse that wipes the memory card of everybody not actually on the airfield? Use your long lens to identify the culprits and send ‘the lads’ round later?
Exquisite pro and con arguments can be wielded here until the cows come home, but it’s not going to stop the practice, is it?
I think it would be better to accept that the ‘problem’ has no solution. 😉
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If you don’t have a ticket (paid or otherwise) to enjoy the entertainment you’re freeloading.
Not really. What about all those thousands who are in a position to take images of airshow participants but who are nowhere near the airfield? Or the folks who live in the houses and villages surrounding most airfields, the folk (maybe even photographers) who live, or contrive to be, under the approach or depature routes, the bloke with a long lens stuck in the traffic queue waiting to get into, eg, RIAT. There are thousands of such people. Are they freeloaders?
I’ve been going to air shows for donkeys years now, since before you were born in fact. I admit the early years were kind of ‘free’ because I was either on the station or support to the away displays. But now I’ll always pay to enter not begruding one penny – except maybe at RIAT which is a con. Air shows for me, and thousands like me, are not primarily about photography they’re about meeting old friends, that and basking in an aviation centric atmosphere for a few hours. Seems to me that the good folks on this thread are getting exercised mostly about competition in taking the ‘best’ photos.
And that’s no problem. It’s a good thing in fact. The images presented here, and in other places, are orders of magnitude better that anything I (or most) can produce. But they’re not the main reason for air shows in my opinion.
If some folks stand ‘outside the fence’, so what? Means little in the overall scheme of things and doesn’t detract in any way from the quality of non-freeloader images does it?.
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Hi Les, Yes I am ‘TJ’.
Well stapp me sunshine. So, you survived the holiday with the penguins then. :rolleyes: You still in?
Good to meet up with you again after all these years. I still glance through r.a.m. occasionally but it’s not the same these days, full of trolls and t***ers.
Good one of 134 TJ, thanks. If you do Waddo next year turn up at the Canberra Assoc enclosure and say Hi.
Oh yes . . . there’s a grouping of two<?> green painted nissen type huts with connecting brick accom section just outside 4 hangar at Wyton (they were still there a year or so back) We always understood these to be part of JARIC. Scenery models were built in there using PI intel from the factory the other side of the road from the main gate. Never really took much notice so, again, could be something completely different I guess.
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And understandably too skipper, it’s a fine memorial to the pathfiders. Must admit it had slipped my mind when I was posting. 😮
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meaning it was completly painted in it’s new scheme….again
Good work there Rob. Will possibly be doing a ‘motorised’ visit next week to have a close look (and I promise I’ve learned how to stop properly now). Looks to me like that project was at least a 150 fag job. 😉
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Are you going to paint the Sea Vixen in Red Bull colours? 🙂
Ha! Ha! Don’t be silly, it’ll be finished in Famous Grouse colours. :diablo:
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Thought JARIC were already there! Well, there was a section called that at Wyton when I was there. Trouble with acronyms, they can mean anything so I’m prob wrong.
By the way, you wouldn’t be the same ‘TJ’ that I knew when we used to post on r.a.m a few years back would you?
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Supposed to be an RAF organised dig on the site of the old dump looking for Spitfire, Hurricane and Lincoln bits in August this year..
That’s to be at Kenley I believe.
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(Can anyone tell me who the pilot was)
Sqn Ldr Terry Cairns. 61 years old, probably the oldest active pilot in the RAF. Flying the oldest aircraft too, XH134, built in 1959. 😉
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Pennies? They’re gutted! There are going to be a lot of these coming up soon enough, and surely there will be plenty more with rather more bits still attached!
Thought the Jags have had their operational life extended to around June 2007. Something to do with keeping all the spare pilots in the RAF off the streets I suppose. Heard a dire rumour that some of the Jags were being considered as CAS for the troops in Afgahnthingy. Doubt it would work though – too high and too hot for Jags. :rolleyes:
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And where does it say Wyton is closing? I work at Wyton, so far.
Surely it’s inevitable when DLO moves out of Wyton. I hope I’m wrong as I have many fond memories of Wyton, but I can’t see Brampton ‘overspill’ being enough to justify keeping a large camp like Wyton going regardless of the number of Group Captains they have there). The beancounters will crunch the numbers and suddenly you’ll have a large industrial/housing estate next to the ‘Mad Mile’.
Five odd years to go though so I guess things may change. 😉
Futher, as mentioned above, there’s an F-4 to consider as well.
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Whats with the vertical tail on the canberra near XM607? Is it grey?
39 Sqn’s commemorative fin paint job. An idea that seems to be ‘traditional’ these days.
Damien has a good photo of it in his thread on the Photo forum – Waddo 2006 pics (Saturday). Paint job shows 39 Sqn’s winged bomb device with B&W reproductions of the crests of all the PR.9 users in the RAF. Bottom left – 13 Sqn and 39 Sqn (large crest). Top right (from left) 58 Sqn and 1 PRU. 58 Sqn (Wyton) were the first to receive PR.9s.
Image repeated here if you don’t want to go looking for it.

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OK DDM.
Pretty looking thing.
The aircraft looks nice too! :rolleyes:
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Rob. Cracking images squire.
Gawds! Contrition here. :confused: Sorry Brittania, went square shaped there. Your images of course. No excuses really, must read who actually posts a thing!
A senior moment there exacerbated by having been at Waddo since 07:00 on Sun and had just returned home (22:00) tired, hot, dehydrated, knackered, etc.
Would still like to use your pic of XH134 finishing its landing if I could. 🙂
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Rob
Cracking images squire.
You should have come down to the Canberra Assoc enclosure, you’d have met more CanMen than you ever imagined there could be. :rolleyes: 😎
Oh, and by the way, might steal the shot of your with XH134 landing for my site. Nice capture that. Talk with you later. 😉
One pic I managed to get shows the 39 Sqn ground crew watching the RAF’s oldest pilot demonstrating there’s still life in the RAF’s oldest aircrfat.

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