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  • in reply to: Canberra retirement #1290527
    LesB
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    Wow 😮 Nasa have a British Canberra jet 😀 thank you for info.

    Well, not exactly, they’re American licence built WB-57’s, long wing affairs, wierd looking beasts.

    Now in the UK is Air Atlantique the only company in the UK to have an airworthy Canberra?

    Again, not really. AA own WJ874, a T.4 (the Blue One) and Classic Aircraft Projects have WK163, a B.6. Both, however, at Coventry Airport in AA’s hangar.

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    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1290552
    LesB
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    Hell long as the Canberra been in RAF service for?

    It just seems like ‘hell’ working Canberras, especially a bomb doors change on the line in deepest winter. But enough of that. To answer your question, the Canberra was first delivered to the RAF in May 1951, so (I’ll do the math for you) – 55 years. And, anticipating your next question, the Canberra first flew on Friday May 13 1949.

    and what private companys fly the Canberra?

    NASA and Air Platforms Inc of Califonia.

    Hope that helps. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: The Day-Glo thread…. #1293030
    LesB
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    Surprised that nobody has posted a photo of a Victor tanker as they had a bit of dayglo on them.

    So did our Landrover, tractor, air bottles and oxygen bottles on 51 Sqn, nobody has posted a photo of them either! :diablo:

    In fact, sticky-backed dayglo was a boon, it was the best stuff ever for zaps. That sort of died out when it was withdrawn and stencils and aerosols became the material of choice – not as quick in application.

    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1293143
    LesB
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    . . . was afraid ex-pilots like LesB are taking over… jase… sooty/ sumpy!!! back bone of the RAF..

    jase me old sunshine, wasn’t a zobbit, was a rigger, top of the food chain!

    A GS screwdiriver, 2BA tap and a roll of black tape and the world is yer mollusc of choice. No aircraft too important or big that can’t be hacked by yer liney rigger. 😎

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    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1293544
    LesB
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    I have a very good book on the Canberra which of course I can’t find, but it relates how in the early days, during interception trials at high altitude, the USAF/Canadian Sabres would fall out of the sky and the Canberras would use their superior high altitude performance to turn the tables and see them off in a dog fight.

    That tale is from Roland Beamont’s book Flying to the Limit I believe. It doesn’t relate to interception trials, rather it tells of Bee’s arrival over the US Eastern Seaboard when he flew one out for US evaluation. He’d cruise-climbed from the UK and was around 50 000 when he arrived in their air space. US radar asked for his altitude which he refused to confirm as it was ‘classified’. They therefore sent a number of National Guard F-86’s to look him over but they couldn’t reach him. The radar, it seems, passed him onwards to Maryland after contact from Washington about his flight.

    As for the dog-fight bit, because the Canberra had a very low wing loading, it could out turn any of fighters of the day, especially at altitude. It was extremly difficult to even reach a Canberra never mind getting on its ‘six’. Tales abound about this as you will guess. One such is that Canberra sqns were often asked to offer their aircraft as interception targets by fighter sqns, this they did willingly, as one does. But the one that tickles me is when a PR.9 sqn rang a Phantom sqn and offered one of their normal flights as a target, then suggested meeting at 50 000. From all accounts the the phone line went all quiet! There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Canberra stories out there, most haven’t been told yet, hopefully they will after the beast has gone.

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    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1293671
    LesB
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    Hopefully there’s enough FI left for a fast ‘blue note’ pass 🙂

    Not sure what you mean by ‘FI’ Mark, but you’ll wait a long, long time to hear the blue note from a Canberra. :diablo:

    However, if you stand about 15 ft directly in front of one that’s starting up, the harmonics from the two intakes as the Avons spool up will melt your ear wax. That’s the main reason I’m near deaf (along with hundreds of other CanMen). 😉

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    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1296698
    LesB
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    OK Cliffair, thanks for that. As for getting restored, somehow I doubt that will ever happen. 🙁

    Now here’s a thought, Cosford could swap it for the F-111 they now have! :diablo:

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    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1296718
    LesB
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    Not a problem John, in fact, glad to hear someone else feels the same way over the fate of WT346. A short history of 346 and some pix here.

    Totally agree about the iniquity of disposing of this airframe 13 years ago. To me the B(I)8 is far more representative of the RAF and UK’s Cold War than some of the ‘frames that Cosford are stuffing like sardines into their architectural eyesore.

    Everybody seems to know about the V Force machinery but then somehow overlooks the sterling contribution to the UK’s creditable nuclear capability provided by the Canberra B(I)8s of the Strike Sqns in Germany. These sqns and their Canberras plugged the nuclear gap whilst the V Force were working up as well as being part of the Nuclear Trigger policy. Couple this with the Canberra crews knowing that their’s would be a one-way trip and you get some idea of the misguided, if not disrespectful, attitude of Britains so-called RAF Museum.

    Still, they’ll have an F-111 for the punters to gawp at, so that’s all right then! 😡

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    in reply to: Canberra retirement #1296884
    LesB
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    They already had a perfect Cold-War Canberra – a B(I)8 – which they shamefully destroyed!

    Not really, WT346 was sold to the RNZAF Museum, Christchurch, NZ. Dismantled and shipped in Aprl 1993, this B(I)8 is still in bits in their store. 😡

    And . . .

    Hopefully, if they get a PR9 they will take better care of it.

    Cosford already have a PR.9, XH171. It was supposed to be under a re-furb programme but, as with most things at Cosford, has probably been shunted into a corner somewhere as being non-representative of whatever it is they are trying to represent there. :confused:

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    in reply to: The Day-Glo thread…. #1300380
    LesB
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    . . . but didn’t think the paper strips came in until around 1964 . . .

    Albert, our two T.4s on 3 Sqn at Geilenkirchen had self-adhesive dayglo in at least 1962/3. Mind you, that is around 1964 I guess! :rolleyes:

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    in reply to: The Day-Glo thread…. #1305176
    LesB
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    Where/when was the shot of 877 taken please?

    Have no idea, as I said in the post, the pix were not taken by me.

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    in reply to: Midland Air Museum – Night Views #1305455
    LesB
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    The anti-collison lights on one of the other aircraft they had lit up there that evening.

    Can’t think of which one it was at the moment, but it’ll come to me, I’m sure of it, it’ll come . . . . :rolleyes:

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    in reply to: WV797 Progress. #1305460
    LesB
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    It’s even more gooder from the top. :rolleyes:

    Peter
    Will there be attempts to bring life back to the cockpit eventually like the hunter or canberra?

    Short answer, no. Sea Hawk has the old-style rubberised wiring, not considered safe enough to put power through it after standing around for 20 odd years. The checksand re-wiring where necessary would take too long and be to expensive I reckon.

    in reply to: The Day-Glo thread…. #1305589
    LesB
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    Two Canberra B.2s and a T.4

    WJ728 – B.2
    WH703 – B.2
    WJ877 – T.4

    All sticky-backed paper, not the cissie paint stuff. 😉

    Pics from unknown authors. If they’re yours, sorry I’ll remove them.

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    in reply to: Canberra WJ753 #1309902
    LesB
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    Got any more goodies like this?

    Steve has quite a few re-paints of Canberras for the Flight Sim world, you should check out his site.

    He’s also done a few rather tasty re-paints of the Canberra B(I)8, including a few in 3 Sqn markings when they were at Geilenkirchen in the 60s.

    http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/fs-xm245.jpg

    Looks good and, as I was on 3 Sqn in those days, I can say it’s pretty accurate too.

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