Consul
Sorry, no info on the schemes used, the civvies seemed to change them more often than people change their socks. :rolleyes: However, it could be that the light blue – a smart looking scheme I agree – denoted use by the Bomber Maritime Test Squadron at BosDwn. I have a colour pic of WK164 in similar colours when with the BMTS.
Interestingly your 1972 pic doesn’t show the in-flight re-fueling probe fitted to WH876 in 1971 for the trials with the stop-gap Vulcan tanker conversion. Must have been only a short trial. The civvies are notoriously bad at recording the colour/configuration events in the flying lives of their aircraft, more interested in the data I guess. Most extant info comes from “rememberances” and personal observation by individuals. Consequently it is difficult to pin down any one aircraft’s usage or colour scheme with any accuracy – particularly the Canberras as they were all over the place in those days.
Ant H
I was disappointed that both were chopped up rather than offered for preservation when they came up for disposal-does anyone know why this was done??
WH734’s cockpit section was saved and is currently being refurbished for a private customer by a specialist firm in the UK. WH734 has a bit of “history” as it was one of the Canberras fitted out as an air-to-air refuler. Have a pic of it topping up a Lightning. As to why they scrap them without offering them up to enthusiasts, don’t know. Must be a bean-counter thing. 🙁
lanky
Are all the canberras that come out of RAF service simply scrapped?
You asked this question. Does it refer to the two Canberras mentioned here or is it a “general” question? If you meant the two mentioned in this thread then they were not RAF Canberras, they were flown by the UK’s research establishment.
Consul
WH876 went on to become the Martin Baker Canberra after its second conversion back to B.2 from U.10 radio controlled aircraft. Nose is still extant at Boscombe – see here, pic in “service” below (a Don Gillham photo).
lanky and ollie
Grow up will you, these things are not Airfix kits. It takes some serious dedication and back-breaking engineering to make a good presentable cockpit section no matter what the aircraft – in some cases it takes years.
Good one AACF. Healthy looking start there, and before Xmas just as you said. :rolleyes:
This is definitely a B.2. Three ejection seats therefore not a PR type. Engine starter buttons are for the single cartridge type starters therefore not a B.6 (and it’s not T.4).
Still not sure of the identity of this cockpit section though, at the moment WJ640 is in the frame so to speak. This was owned by a Film Studio based, I think, at Denham Aerodrome and last recorded in 1991. So, it could be anywhere now. Maybe someone can tighten up on this.
But then again, life’s to short to try and follow through on this hulk. After being used as a “Broadsword” spaceship in a sub-B class film of a computer game it is probably now owned by the film company or handed on to a scrappy like most of the Lightning cockpits were.
Where is LesB when you need him ? Need an ID and lowdown on the Canberra cockpit please ? 😀
Didn’t see it – the prog or the cockpit (thankfully). However, cranberry cockpits were and are pretty easy to get hold of especially at the time the film was made. Could be anything. Unless someone comes up with a pic or two I won’t make a guess except to say it would have been a B.2 or a PR.7 or a TT.18. If it had a lumpy nose it was a T.17. 😉 😉
While I’m here, I have a spare (full size) print of “White Lightning” (the one Moggy shows). Suitable for framing. Anybody? PM me.
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Hope it never happens. It’ll be full of squadrons of computer generated airframes in full colour with four-part harmony and sly allusions to modern events.
Anyway, everybody knows that WWII was in black & white.
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Does anyone know when WK163 will be back in the air ?
I reckon as soon as the Avons pass muster within the new “lifetime” rules. AACF consider it will fly next season.
Didn’t say they’d be in focus. :rolleyes:
So we jack it up a tad until we get a macro adaptor donated and fitted . . . 😉
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Great work repainting outside, however he does perhaps not realise that the top surfaces of the Canberra are visible to all the museum visitors who emerge from the covered area at the top of the steps. It makes a good wide angle photo,so his hard work will be noticed. Or have I got the wrong Canberra?
You’ve got the right Canberra and yes, we did realise that the upper surfaces were visible from the top of the steps. We meant that they are not generally visible to the normal, casual, walk-round type visitor.
Up in the back hatch though, that’s where the action is. Plans are afoot to power up the F52 camera as a neg carrier has been offered and wiring/plugs identified. Next summer, maybe, WF922 will be the only static PR Canberra able to take tactical photos of the spores on the leaves of grass underneath it – if any film can be found . . .and someone to process it . . and . . . :rolleyes:
Bringing another B-17 to the UK???
Why?
don’t forget that Brampton also has a Phantom
Pic of said FGR-2 in 74 Sqn markings below. This Phant has a centreline gun pod fitted.
Anyone know the reason for the Canberra lying out on Wyton airfield
Its on their “fire dump” and is PR.7 WT519. Brief history here. I believe that currently its ownership and dispostion are under discussion. It is in a dangerous state though, not worth reclaiming except for spares.
1689 Flt, Bomber (Defence) Training Flt – originally formed in 1944 at Leconfield by re-designating 1484 Flt, (Bomber (Gunnery) Flt. Typical aircraft – Hurricane, Anson, Spitfire, Martinet, Beaufighter, Tiger Moth.
Disbanded 1945 at Holme-on-Spalding-Moor.
Re-formed 1946 at Aston Down as 1689 (Ferry Pilot Training) Flt by re-designating 41 Group Training Flt. Was attached to 20 MU. Typical aircraft include – Wellington, Lancaster, Hornet, Lincoln, Mosquito, Sptfire, Oxford, Harvard, Vampire, Meteor.
Typical Flt marking – 9X. Typical aircraft codes – Wellington, X RP506 9X; Lancaster VII NX612 9X; Hornet F.3 PX348; Mosquito IIIVP346 9X-T; Oxford I RR332 9X-P. There are others of course.
Disbanded April 1953 at Aston Down, moved to Benson and absorbed into the Ferry Training Flight.
This from Alan Lake’s book, Flying Units of the RAF
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I’d like to see one next to a Canberra – where their roles similar?
Canberra was slightly larger but looked squatter. Canberra span = 64ft, len = 66ft. Vatour span = 49ft 6in, len = 51ft.
A couple of Vatour sqns used to visit with us regularly when I was on B(I)8s at Geilenkirchen for very agreeable “mutal” play-days. Noisy beasts and, as I recall, prone to hydraulic snags.
See you’ve not had a pic yet APC. Here they all are at RAF Sculthorpe in 1952 with the complete, mixed, RAF/USAF crews.