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  • in reply to: de Havilland Museum Trident restoration #1279085
    LesB
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    Thanks for the reply Bruce, I think MAM may need scafolding when the Vulcan comes into the frame for re-paint. They’ll have to find a friendly builder supplies firm I guess. 😉

    Mind you, the Argosy was done without scaffolding and with four-inch rollers! The top of the wings was like painting two cricket pitches (I’m told).

    Again, good effort from your troops and yes, spraying can be a bu%%er outside, especially over the time you did yours – respect.

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    in reply to: de Havilland Museum Trident restoration #1279234
    LesB
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    Outstanding job Bruce, very nice indeed, congrats to the team. (The masking off must have taken some doing.) Should last a good few years. What’s needed now is a frequent “de-streaking” exercise to get rid of rain streaks and keep the frame pristine.

    Could you say how much of the £7k went on the scaffolding? Or was that part of the “sponser’s” contribution? Anyway I bet it was a boon for the task.

    Any pix of the interior?

    Also, been asked to pass on admiration and sincere congratulations from MAM’s SEngO and Team.

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    in reply to: MAM Stuff #1279437
    LesB
    Participant

    The F.51 Hunter is now in artic camo. Actually it looks better like this I reckon. 😉

    Why is it that airframes always tend to look good in white? :rolleyes:

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    in reply to: Aviation sights, museums in Germany? #1279447
    LesB
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    Peter Junior’s excellent but very crowded museum Flugausstellung Junior – near Hermeskeil. Down Stuttgart way.

    I haven’t been there for some years now but they have the only complete Canberra B(I)8 airframe in the whole of Europe – XM246. Loads of Soviet airframes (jets and helicopters), and a He111 as I recall.

    Their cafe is in a full size mock-up Concorde.

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    in reply to: Canberra Question's #1284313
    LesB
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    That would be PR.7, WT537. Bought back from the RAF in 1981 by BaE, stored at Samlesbury and eventually made Gate Guard painted in the old PR colours.

    Must agree with JASE here, not in good nick – same as me really. But, it is a whole airframe so good luck to you.

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    in reply to: MAM Stuff #1286201
    LesB
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    Lee
    Yes, I believe so.

    In reality, when the blue/red scheme was removed there was enough traces of this “old” scheme left under it to determine the actual colours and hue of the “new” scheme. If your pic is the one I’ve seen it looks like it was taken originally on a Kodachrome transparency film as the blues have a distinct greenish hue.

    Solved the problem of a scheme for the frame though and for that I’m sure I can offer many thanks from the blokes involved.

    Can now pass on the personal thanks from SEngO and theTeam at MAM.

    Roger
    The secret is out! The ex-Danish Hunter F.51 will be trialed with an experimental “dispruptive” camouflage (similar to that of the Me 262’s). See pic. :diablo:

    I can tell you though that it definitely won’t be in the Jordainian Air Force colours of sand and chocolate. :rolleyes:

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    in reply to: MAM Stuff #1287119
    LesB
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    Robmac
    Why Les, that sounds like a ‘don’t think it’s gonna happen’ quote!!
    Not at all old son, looking forward to its arrival – want to be there actually. Be interesting watching a 90ft fuselage getting in through the gate. Keep me posted please, so as I can make sure the battery on my electric tractor is fully charged. 😉

    Nashio966
    MAM’s certainly will never fly again, its days working the North Sea oil rigs (with floats fitted) have really taken their toll on the airframe.

    Phixer
    . . . but we nodded our heads in agreement if only to make him feel better.
    LOL. Good one. 😉

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    in reply to: MAM Stuff #1287469
    LesB
    Participant

    Didn’t want to mention that Robb as it’s not happened yet. :rolleyes:

    Saw the white paint on the deck though, very “forward planning”. Thin kite innit!! :diablo:

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    in reply to: Canberra Serials Help #1296492
    LesB
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    Hi Les,Thanks for your info aswell, i am interested in 51 Sqn B2s and after getting the 1st serials from Scorpion63 and a little digging around the internet and books i am getting conflicting information.

    Well, it is 51 Sqn you’re talking about. :diablo:

    Some say the B2s was only in service for 2 years based at Warton and Watton, then moved to Wyton with B6 Versions and then i have details of 540Sqn disbanding and later became 51 Sqn, the Canberra working alongside 540 Sqn Comets on ELINT sorties.

    Not Warton, Watton only. Adjustment to my earlier about the B.2s. WH670 didn’t transfer to 51 from 192. 192’s third B.2 did – WJ640.

    540 Sqn was, in the timeframe, a PR sqn. 51 Sqn came out of 192 Sqn at Watton. 51 Sqn did not come out 540 Sqn. 540 Sqn did not fly Comets, they flew Canberras – PR.3’s, PR.7’s and finally B.2’s before disbanding in September 1954. 51 Sqn was formed in August 1958. On formation, the sqn split into two ‘elements’ (for want of a better word) with one element going to Wyton and being allocated 192’s B.6’s which were moded to ‘specials’. The ex-192 Sqn B.2’s seem to have stayed at Watton until March 1960 whereas the ‘element’ at Wyton went on with B.6’s (refitted to B.6(R)’s or B.6 (Mod) whichever name you believe), anyway they stayed at Wyton with up to four B.6(R)’s (see scorpion’s list), two Comets and a Hastings. That was their line up when I joined the sqn in early 1965.

    Station/Allocation overlaps for 192/51 sqns

    192Sqn – Jan 53 to Aug 58 – B.2’s – Watton
    192Sqn – Jul 54 to Aug 58 – B.6’s – Watton
    51Sqn – Aug 58 to March 60 – B.2’s – Watton
    51Sqn – Aug 58 to Mar 74 – B.6(R)’s – Wyton
    51Sqn – Jan 76 to Oct 76 – B.6(R) – Wyton

    B2 WH670 in service to 21 Aug 1958 – To 527 Sqn from 192, didn’t transfer to 51 Sqn on renumbering.
    B2 WH698 18 Feb 1952 to 20 Jan 1964 – Wasn’t ready for collection from mnftr until Jan 1953. Went straight on to 192 Sqn.
    B2 WJ640 to Jul 1966 – Probably correct although I would have said 1960. 640 ended up on 85 Sqn and finally 100 Sqn.
    B2 WJ775 to May 1974 – WJ775 was a B.6!
    B2 WT301 to Jul 1974 – WT301 was a B.6! Was Struck Off Charge July 1974

    . . . plus theres many T4s and B6s which i presume was in operation when they moved to Wyton.

    T.4’s were usually owned by Station Flights in those days, eg, 51 at Wyton did not have their own.

    As you can see some say 2 yr service and others say they lasted a lot longer.

    The B.2’s lasted with with the Watton element of 51 (was 192), not the Wyton element of 51 which was B.6(R) equipped.

    I understand how the allocation of airframes to 51 Sqn can be confusing and not readily researched as there was a certain secrecy over their operations. I think, however, that what I’ve written above is about a clear as I can make it from a quick look. Unless someone else comes up with more definitive gen you can take the info above a ‘good’.

    Can I ask, why do you want to know such stuff? :confused:

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    in reply to: Canberra Serials Help #1296671
    LesB
    Participant

    WJ768,WJ775,WT301 & WT305

    Jason asked about the B.2’s. these were all B.6 Canberras.

    51 Sqn initially inherited two Canberra B.2s from 192 Sqn when, in August 1958, 192 Sqn was renumbered 51 Sqn. By that time 192 had two additional Canberras (B.6’s) on charge, WT301 and WJ755, which were also handed over.

    Hope this helps.

    (Unless Jason has misnamed the aircraft he’s interested in)

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    in reply to: IAF 106 Sqn Canberras Retire #1304931
    LesB
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    arent the nasa wb57 still classed as being in service as i thought i read at least one had been sent to afganistan?:diablo:
    paul

    The two NASA WB-57 sometime four-engined Canberras are not strictly “in service” but civilian – they are “in use”. The term “in service” implies used by the armed forces of a country.

    Using your definition there are 7 or so private Canberras in fairly regular flying order* around the world, at least two in the states in revenue earning work.

    We’ll have to wait and see if the IAF keep one flying. 😎

    * = Unsure about the “Blue One” at Air Atlantique. :rolleyes:

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    in reply to: IAF 106 Sqn Canberras Retire #1305696
    LesB
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    . . . at least the IAF have managed a bit longer than we did.

    Not really.

    RAF service from 1951 to 2006 = 55 years.

    IAF service from 1957 to 2007 = 50 years.

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    in reply to: IAF 106 Sqn Canberras Retire #1305705
    LesB
    Participant

    With the retirement of the RAF’s Canberras last year and the IAF’s this year does that leave any in service elsewhere?

    Peru. Eight or so B(I)68’s and B(I)12’s kept servicable and in flying condition but not tasked.

    B(I)68 = B(I)8 derivative.
    B(I)12 = B(I)8 derivative (bought from the South African Air Force).

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    in reply to: Canberra Bit. #1319654
    LesB
    Participant

    OK, sorry for the delay.

    It is, as Jase wrote, a drift calculator, and as Bex wrote, it is for camera sighting. Fitted to PR.3s and PR.7s (for a while) it was used to allow more accurate overlap images when flying ‘strip’ photo recce (I believe, still looking into this :confused: ).

    And yes Bex, I believe 773 should have one as well.

    Pics show the sight in ‘action’, and as now fitted to WF922 at MAM.

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    in reply to: Canberra Bit. #1321218
    LesB
    Participant

    Not a bomb sight.

    :rolleyes:

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