Well, RIPConcorde and Shamrock321, you are both right…
From today, 1 July, until 31 August, Snowflake “will co-operate with Scandinavian Airlines” (which sounds ridiculous, since Snowflake uses their aircraft and crews) and offer flights to these new destinations;
Edinburgh, Dublin, Milan LIN, Paris CDG, Amsterdam, Brussels
The “co-operation” means that Snowflake gets a number of allocated seats on certain SAS flights from Stockholm to the above destinations. The reason for this offer being time-limited is simply that the amount of business travellers is less during the summer and then, of course, it’s better to fill the empty seats with people paying a little rather than no people who pay nothing.
That was what I could find out now, being outside the company intranet which probably contains more detailed infos… and if you want to see a Snowflake aircraft but lives far from a Snowflake destination: don’t worry! Snowflake’s 737-800 and MD-80 fly all over SAS’ routenet, they are not earmarked in any way. But they were supposed to be from the beginning, though…
This is where we need Sonnenflieger to explain things!
Nice to hear someone wants my explanation! However, I have no clue what this is about as I’ve just come home from a week’s holiday in Berlin. I’ll check the latest company news and come back asap, ok?
It is obviously a radio controlled model, but a very well done film. With a sharp eye, one can spot several differences to the full scale A320; mainly around the tail. It looks like a cross between the A320 and ERJ-170…
Have a nice weekend, I am off to Berlin now for a full week of historical expeditions!
Actually It’s 32 MB. What a fast download! 350 kbps!
Awesome!
Whoops! Corrected. Don’t know where I got 21 mb from…
Hans, are you sure you’re not a long lost twin of mine? Me and you seem to think alike.
Who knows? We might even have been standing next to each other at Heathrow, Gatwick, Farnborough or some museum. But I never saw someone looking like me… 😉
Oh, how fun! Here is my list: on certain forums in Scandinavia there are –
1. Lots of know-it-alls who always have easy solutions on how to solve the problems in this business. Strange that these experts aren’t employed by the airlines, with their knowledge they would surely be sought after?
2. Lots of younger so-called enthusiasts who brag about knowing someone working for this-and-that airline and if they know a captain never fail to mention it in every post.
3. Self-proclaimed experts, who time and again give out wrong facts and when confronted with it always have a legit excuse for being wrong.
4. Spotters who spend every free day at the runway and take photos of every single aircraft passing by, no matter if it passes by five times a day every day, and get excited over an MD-80 again operating a certain route which has been operated by 737s for the last three weeks. Even if the MD-80 has been flying on that route since 1985.
5. Airline employees leaking internal information, passenger numbers and possible future strategies for certain airlines.
6. Liars who say they have a father who is a captain flying the A321, and was commanding a flight when a go-around involving a Thai 747 occured. A liar who shortly thereafter registered his ‘father’ as a user on the forum as well. This ‘father’ gave out advice on pilot schools and how to fly the A321. Someone from the airline suspected something wasn’t right and checked if he existed. He didn’t. Everyone had fallen for his lies, I must admit that he was quite good at it. Probably several years of mythological training behind all this!
The sensmorale of this is: don’t believe everything you read in the forums, someone who says he’s a captain might very well be a 19-year old loser whose only cockpit experience is riding in the control cabin of a tram in a second-rate Swedish city.
I was once one of the enthusiasts on the outside, trying to look in and wanting to be a part of this business. Since three years, I am. Now and again I have groups visiting my workplace, and if there are enthusiasts among them who are seriously interested and show an humble attitude, I gladly give them the extra time or something else for them to remember their visit. I know I would have appreciated it a lot if I was one of them.
Well, today Continental opened their new Newark-Oslo route with the 757… but narrowbodies on long routes aren’t exactly unusual in Scandinavia.
Historically, Sterling Airways until 1991 or so flew 727s on their Copenhagen-Toronto route. It was then changed to 757 and IIRC operated until they went bankrupt in 1993. Sterling also flew Caravelles and 727s from Sweden and Denmark to Ceylon/Sri Lanka, and 727s to Phuket in the late 80s. Obviously not nonstop, but via Tashkent. Keep in mind that Sterling’s 727s were the heaviest threeholers around, with a MTOW of some 100 tons if I’m not mistaken. They were tailor made for their Stockholm/Copenhagen-Las Palmas run, 6 hours with 189 passengers…
Transwede flew MD-83s and MD-87s from Stockholm to Miami in the late 80s. Via Keflavik and Gander.
Conair of Scandinavia (merged with Scanair to form Premiair in 1993) flew A320s to Fort Lauderdale and some other destinations far away.
This went on until the Scandinavian charter carriers went nuts and bought huge amounts of DC-10s and L-1011s… and several of them didn’t exist much longer after that.
As usual, me and Bmused55 seem to have the same opinion… great idea with these new forums, I’ll gladly tell anyone who’s interested about my flights up here on the North Pole!
Well, that’s the next travel destination decided for me then…
Oh, how beautiful….
Are all TWA aeroplanes repainted now?
a better/more recognised worldwide name to trade under than their own name, which had its own roots based almost solely in the German market, and chose to change their name rather than make us in the UK change.
…and now Britannia is calling themselves Thomson Fly in the UK whilst the name Britannia is still used in Sweden.
No need to shout though, I can read small letters perfectly well. 😉
Come on in! Hope you feel as welcome as I did when I joined a few months ago!
@RIPConcorde: Without saying too much, Snowflake has a few things planned for the future. A bit sad that they are giving out contradicting information.
bmi-star: The Q400 operations to southern Europe were quite frankly ridiculous. Whereas Swiss were flying RJs and A320s to Stockholm, SAS had Q400s on the same sector. 3 hrs on a Q400 is far too much, I get tired after even one hour on it. The same applies to Amsterdam where KLM were flying several 737-3/4/800s a day to Stockholm, and SAS had Q400s doing the same. PR-wise it is a disaster – how SAS could justify offering turboprop service to a destination whose passengers are mainly businessmen/women is beyond me. But things are better now at least…
Could be, I don’t know what the flying time from ARN to INV is but it should be around 2 hrs, right? Just like to Geneva and Zurich, for example. SAS has/is operating Q400s on those routes from time to time so it wouldn’t be out of place.
Especially since the four Snowflake painted aircraft are often operating SAS mainline flights and ‘normal’ SAS aircraft operate Snowflake flights.