Those are Angolan Mig-21’s and Mig-17’s, photo from late 70’s or early 80’s, I think most likely from 70’s
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Does anyone have any photos showing the other side of these old Mozambique two seat Mig-21UM’s?

Thank you very much for an awsome set of photos cy24driver2

Mozambique

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The first one is a Gentex HGU-68/P there are a few HGU series helmets that use this visor system and they have different designations but I think this is the most common one.
Second: photo is too small to tell but looks like the dual visor version of the HGU-55 or similar
Third looks like the British Mk1 or Mk1a same as the one in your photo in your first post

Its the only Me 262 in a museum in South Africa!

A little more reseach on the subject reveals the following:

Quote “A Brief History:

The museum’s Me-262B1-a/U1, Red 8 works number 110305 is the only known surviving Me-262 night fighter variant.

The Luftwaffe assigned the Me-262 early in 1945. They assigned it to 10/JG300, and was eventually deployed south of Berlin, where it was captured by the British at Magdeburg and assigned the Air Ministry number 50.

It was sent to the Central Fighter Establishment where sensitive and valuable equipment was removed for study.

During one of its flights it was damaged when overshooting a runway. The radar array was then replaced, the current one not being original factory fitted to the jet.

In 1947, it was gifted to South Africa arriving in Cape Town, later being given to the museum by the SAAF. At this stage it was still in its original colour scheme, but was later repainted in an incorrect scheme. it is now displaying its original correct scheme once more” Unquote

So there is no claim that it is the only 262 in a museum etc but that it is the only known genuine Me-262B1-a/U1 night fighter, it seems that other “night fighter” versions on display in various museums etc were converted from the two seat trainer version.

I hope that this information helps to clear up the confusion.;)

Seems so 🙁 (damn good PS then and bad news), but XG164 doesn’t apparently wear such squadron badge. See here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/8634335997/

Yes, sorry for the bad news, I was also happy to see the photo at first, but it appears to be a 74 squadron RAF badge on the nose also you can see the red of the top of the RAF fin flash on the tail along with the bit of yellow from code letter on the tailfin.
The Rhodesian air force never carried these sort of marking as mentoned above.
Here are some 74 Squadron RAF Hunters for you to compare:
http://www.raf74.com/aircraft.php scroll down the page for this one, there is a Hunter F.4 and an F.6
http://www.74squadron.org.uk/images/Photos/Mass%20Archive/Hunter%20Days/22%20Hunter%206s.JPG
http://www.74squadron.org.uk/images/Photos/Mass%20Archive/Hunter%20Days/6%20Op%20Turn-round.JPG
http://www.74squadron.org.uk/images/Photos/Mass%20Archive/Hunter%20Days/11%20Begum%20c.jpg

Here some Rhodesian Hunters
http://media.ourstory.com/62/15/50/eb171120b3a86da481ea89c4df5c4d30c3e808a5/05cd307b1d14ac39f82ee975c3e157d051145a9f.jpg
http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/96/pics/124_2.jpg

Hey Y-20, why does South Africa want to dump the uber plane that you love so much and you’ve always figured as far superior to the JF-17? 😉

What confidence does that give to clients of the Gripen NG? Maybe you should give up on your hate campaign of the JF-17 and come to terms with something people sometimes refer to as reality… 😉

It has nothing to do with in particular Gripen being expensive to run, Most of the SAAF Helicopter fleet and the Hawks are also grounded due to lack of funding in general.
There are no new crews being trained and according to reports the A109 fleet are only doing engine starts but no actual flying!
The Astra (Pc7 Mk2) trainer fleet only has a hand full of technicians to maintain them and most of them are trainees.

The news reports are painting a dismal picture of unrealistic funding of the SAAF and the obvious result.

Quote “Keen military watcher and author Darren Olivier said the latest developments are “what happens when an air force is allocated a minuscule peace time flying budget drastically cut from last year and then force it to carry out two rapid, large scale and expensive deployments to countries thousands of kilometres away.

“Once the operational budget has been totally emptied, emergency ad hoc funds are not allocated from the National Treasury’s contingency fund as expected. The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans didn’t even know what reporters were talking about when they asked her about ad hoc funding,” he wrote on a local aviation chatroom.”

Read more here:
http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1227/saaf-�crisis�-caused-by-underfunding

http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1223/sell-hawks-agustas-says-expert

http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2013/07/24/south-african-airforce-in-crisis-da

if it shoot down the heli by gun then that not very impress

All six of the Mb-326K Impala Mk2 kills on the Mi-24’s and Mi-17’s were gun kills, 30mm