I suspect one of the reasons JEJ is not so well known is that the majority of his kills were later in the war, when the steel-eyed fighter pilot was not so much in the headlines as earlier ones, but I suspect it is more likely because he remained in the RAF long after the war, so perhaps was less exposed to the media than others
Mmm, wonder if this is a tender where they already know where the airframe is coming from, but it has to go out to tender fue to competition rules – after all, who has a taxiable Jaguar lying around?
I’d be surprised if one didn’t end up with Paul Allen’s place in Seattle.
I wonder if the US could gift one to us in retrun for our support in recent years – give it to the Science Museum and they could keep it in the Hanger at Wroughton!!
Seriously something like that might kick start their development plans…
There are two Harrier T4 of 4Sqn in arctic scheme on our site: XZ146 and ZB600. There is also an unidentified Harrier GR3 of 4Sqn in arctic scheme and a picture of XV808/W of 3Sqn will be published within the next few days.
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WOW!! There are some ‘holy grails’ of Harrier schemes in your site!! I’ve never seen the coloured tails on 3Sqn aircraft illustrated before for example!
BTW, the T4s with the ‘incomplete’ 3 Squadron badge may actually be carrying the short lived ‘Station Flight’ marking!!
And check out the GR.3 testing a GR.5 colour scheme idea!
Funniest thing about that is the ‘losing’ colour scheme (The grey 4 Squadron one) is more or less the colour that Harriers have flown in for the last 15 years!!
As far as I remember there were two 3Sqn GR3s with white tails and two with red/orange tails. This was a test by RAFG (some Tornados got the same coloured tails) to make aircraft more visible during low level flying after some months earlier in 1989 a RAF Tornado from Bruggen collided with two GAF Alphajets near Wittmund.
That’s right. I’ve known about them for 20 years, but never seen a photograph of the 3 Sqn Harriers (Quite a few of the Tornados, and of course 4 Sqn ‘adopted’ their marking
I cannot remember how long “our” Harriers flew with these coloured tails but as there are no pictures made by our photographers with access to the base I think they did not fly for very long. I re-uploaded pictures of XV738/B in grey and XV758/V with a red tail to our site. If you click on the pictures they open in bigger size.
Fantastic! And the first pic I see is a 3 Sqn aircraft in ‘snow’ camouflage!!!
never seen that before either!!!
Was the main reason for the colourful tales on the late period 4 sqn GR.3s to make the aircraft more visible?
The original was, IIRC, painted on the COs aircraft for the 75th Anniversary of 4 Squadron, but they liked them so much that they used them on other aircraft as part of the visibility trial.
@DaveF68
Thank you for pointing us to that Harrier T4 with unfinished 3 Squadron markings in fact might have been already wearing the markings of Gutersloh Station Flight.
Been having a debate with some friends in the IPMS Harrier SIG about that – they are not so convinced, and think they may indeed just be half finished 3 Sqn badges!
In the pictures of post #25, the top 3 seem to be of 1426 (Enemy Aircraft) flight. Some of the numbers seem to tally. In which case, is that “Black 6” in the centre of the first picture?
Yes, in her RN228 guise. The HS129 was rebuilt and flown.
But, does anybody know anything about the Gotha?
.Rod
It’s not a Gotha, it’s the Arado 232 that was used by RAE post war to ferry parts back from Germany. It had an Air Min number that I can’t remember now!
I think it’s actually stopped – no indication of movement on the wheels. She might even be about to reverse, hence the turn on the nose wheel.
Hello,
Can anyone tell me if aircraft impressed into RAF service at the beginning of WW2, had their civilian registrations painted under the wings. I’ve seen photos with the G-**** in the same position as the military serial numbers, but did the registration go under the port wing or across both as when in civilian colours ?
Martin
If it had the civil marking, it’s unlikely to be one of the impressed aircraft – more likely one of the civil registrations that flew through the war.
Or if anyone can put me in touch with Geoff Thomas that would be great too. Thanks.
Sadly, that won’t be possible as Mr Thomas died several years ago
Post mid-60s, the colour for the tractors was Golden Yellow (BS381C 356). Prior to that there was an orangey-yellow in the MoS range as colour No 2, but this appears to have been superceded mid 50s by no 405, which was less orange.
There were stories that the yellow had to be diluted toon aircraft to make sure enough wnet around, and a friend’s father remembers using dark blue for the stripes as they ran out of black.
Word from contacts in NZ is this is not just Covid related