like a rat need to constantly nibble something to grind down teeth, every design bureau constantly produces new designs (Captain Obvious, sorry)
in its turn, every engine maker wants to put its engine (or, better, two) on that design
Salyut wants to take big PAK FA engine pie back (while it was offered some yummy parts) – to build demonstrator so good that it will punch Saturn from master to servant. If not, they want to promote it for lightweight fighter.
Chernyshev wants al least some liitle pie, too – they has shown some LFMI stuff in last year presentation.
A question if Customer really needs all-new light fighter (and have money to pay for).
Its open that at today’s economic conditions in Russia its very hard to fund for a third new generation aircraft program. Even U.S. goverment didn’t choose to go alone for the F-35! But in my opinion there are some projects which are at different stages of readiness will gonna be properly funded after the years of 2013-2015 such as lightweight fighter, deck fighter and unmanned fighters…
Guys, have you seen the technical data at the bottom of this page?
http://igor113.livejournal.com/201003.html
According the source there is a development work for an light weight single engined fifth gen. aircraft parallel to the PAK-FA program. So probably the decision to get the newly created Mig-35s and Mig-29Ks will be an financial support to the Mikoyan corporation for the future development (until the PAK-FA development costs decreases) of an light weight fifth generation bird (LMFS)! Hope for getting more info…
It’s actually a secret flamethrower to get rid of enemies behind the tail. The Russians are smart.
X2 😀
Probably it work with the smoke “plasma smoke” makes the enemy aircraft’s canopy black :p
T50-2 finally did its first flight at LII today
photos (c) Sergey Lysenko (c) Ivan Kirillov
Thanks flateric at last we got good news and the pictures:) But I wonder which modifications or tests took five months from the delivery of the LII :confused:
Roketsan targets guided anti-tank missile development and production
Roketsan is completing development of a trio of guided anti-armour weapons
Turkish Land Forces Command is the main customer, but the missiles will be marketed for exports
Since the mid-1990s Turkey’s Roketsan has firmly established itself in the design, development and production of unguided surface-to-surface rockets. During the past decade, however, the company has ventured into the more complex and demanding guided-weapons business with the development of three anti-armour systems.
All three are being manufactured under contract to the Turkish Land Forces Command (TLFC) with Roketsan as the prime contractor, and will also be offered on the export market. Several other Turkish companies are involved in the programmes, including Aselsan.
Cirit
In 2004 Roketsan began development of a 2.75-inch semi-active laser-guided missile (SALGM) called Cirit, which was originally the name of a Turkish cavalry-rooted sport played for many centuries. It was also sometimes called Jereed, meaning ‘Javelin’ – also the name of the Raytheon-Lockheed Martin man-portable fire-and-forget anti-tank guided weapon [ATGW] system. Cirit was intended to provide the TLFC’s AH-1P Cobra and AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters with a precision attack capability.
Rather than upgrading its existing 2.75-inch unguided rocket, Roketsan elected to develop a new missile that could be launched from MIL-STD-810 F- and MIL-STD-464 A-compatible M- and LAU-series launchers, which are widely deployed.
Cirit has an overall length of 1.9 m and a launch weight of 15 kg. Minimum range is 1,500 m and maximum range is 8,000 m.
The SALGM has a conventional layout, with a passive SAL seeker installed in the nose, surmounting the control unit with four swing-out control surfaces, which is in turn followed by the guidance section and power source.
Further back is the multipurpose warhead, which provides a combined anti-armour, anti-personnel and incendiary effect. According to Roketsan, this is optimised to neutralise high-value soft or semi-hardened targets.
The rear of the SALGM contains the rocket motor, which is insensitive munition (IM)-compliant and has a reduced smoke signature. It is connected to the rear section by a roll bearing that enables it to rotate in flight.
There are four small stabilising surfaces at the very rear of the missile immediately in front of the exhaust nozzle.
During deployment, the gunner designates the target prior to launch, after which the rocket relies on a MEMS (micro electromechanical system)-type inertial measurement unit in combination with terminal laser homing.
According to Roketsan, Cirit has a high probability of hit on a 3×3 m target at maximum range.
First tests of Cirit were carried out in 2006, with development and flight qualification completed in 2008. Low-rate initial production has already commenced and will ramp up to full-rate production in 2012.
The company says that nearly 100 Cirit missiles of different configurations were launched during the extensive development and qualification tests. These included ballistic, control and guidance test missiles, plus qualification missiles.
As the SALGM is longer than the M- and LAU-series pods, Roketsan has developed a new launch pod and a new canister in which Cirit is delivered as an all-up round. The latter is loaded into either a two- or a four-round launch pod, which is more robust against environmental conditions than a standard launcher and easier to load and unload.
Cirit can additionally be fired from a ‘smart’ launcher, which has a MIL-STD-1760 interface. This can hold two or four SALGMs and contains all of the control electronics, enabling it to be rapidly integrated onto a number of helicopters that are required only to have a MIL-STD-1760 interface.
Roketsan signed an agreement with Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) in May 2011 for the integration of its Cirit Smart Launcher System on the T-129 attack helicopter, to enable data transfer between the missile and the helicopter launch platform.
Also in May, Roketsan signed a memorandum of understanding with Eurocopter for integration of Cirit on the EC635 helicopter, tests of which are planned for an unknown date.
UMTAS
Development of the UMTAS (Uzun Menzilli Tanksavar Fuze Sistemi) long-range air-launched ATGW began in 2005 with the Turkish Undersecretary of National Defence’s award to Roketsan of an initial TRY50 million (USD30.53 million), 26-month Phase I study contract. Phase I covered concept work, including subsystems such as missile propulsion, guidance and warhead.
The ATGW will be the main armament of TAI’s T-129 attack helicopter, which is a further development of the AgustaWestland A129 Mangusta. It is expected that 51 T-129s will be built to supplement the currently deployed AH-1P and AH-1W attack helicopters used by the TLFC.
The UMTAS missile is 1.8 m long and 16 cm in diameter. Launch weight is 37.5 kg and range is 500-8,000 m.
Roketsan received the Phase II contract in mid-2008. First helicopter trial launches have taken place from an AH-1P, which is being used as a testbed for the programme. Safe separation and jettison tests have also been carried out.
The launcher has a military-standard interface and weighs 60 kg. The T-129 attack helicopter would typically carry two launchers, each with four UMTAS missiles, and two launch pods with two or four Cirit 2.75-inch missiles each.
Aselsan has developed a pedestal-type launcher with four UMTAS missiles in the ready-to-launch position. This could be installed on fast attack craft or patrol boats.
In addition to lock-on-before-launch and lock-on-after-launch operational modes, UMTAS can be used against masked targets. The firing envelope enables an off-boresight target engagement.
UMTAS has completed ballistic and control test firings and is undergoing guided firing tests.
Although the first application of UMTAS will be airborne, it is also suitable for some land- and sea-based platforms.
OMTAS
A new weapon known as OMTAS (Orta Menzilli Tanksavar Sistemi) portable medium-range ATGW has grown out of UMTAS and shares several of its subsystems. These include: a nose-mounted uncooled imaging infrared (IIR) seeker developed by Aselsan; a tandem HEAT warhead optimised against targets fitted with explosive reactive armour (ERA) – the first warhead neutralises the ERA, thereby clearing a path for the larger main charge; a duplex RF datalink for uplink-downlink between the user and missile command; and other electronic subsystems.
Roketsan received an initial Phase I design contract for the OMTAS ATGW in April 2007, which it fulfilled by the end of 2009.
The system consists of a missile in its launch tube and a tripod with associated control unit and sighting unit (SU), the latter two systems together weighing about 55 kg.
The OMTAS missile has an overall length of 1.68 m and the same 16 cm diameter as UMTAS, but is slightly lighter at 35 kg, including launch tube. It has four flip-out control surfaces at the very rear and six flip-out wings about two thirds of the way down from the nose.
It has a minimum range of 200 m and maximum range of more than 4,000 m. Its solid-propellant HTPB (hydroxy terminate polybutadiene) rocket motor – also developed by Roketsan – is IM-compliant.
The SU features a thermal camera, TV camera, digital magnetic compass and laser rangefinder. It can be removed and used as a standalone observation device, providing an all-weather target battlefield surveillance capability.
OMTAS can be launched from within a confined space. It has fire-and-forget and fire-and-update modes of operation, as well as direct-attack and top-attack options for masked targets.
Although the first version of OMTAS will be tripod mounted, the ATGW can also be integrated onto tracked and wheeled platforms. During transportation and field deployment each end of the launch tube is fitted with a protective cover.
According to Roketsan, first missiles have already been successfully test fired without the IIR seeker and all-up firings are due in 2012, with design freeze scheduled for late 2012.
Ballistic performance trials have also been completed, as well as control and guidance characteristics using control test vehicles.
Full-scale development (Phase II) is still in progress in line with the original schedule, with qualification expected to take place in 2013 and production (Phase III) to commence in 2014.
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http://www.trdefence.com/2011/07/13/roketsan-targets-guided-anti-tank-missile-development-and-production/
http://rewreward.blogspot.com/2011/07/roketsan-omtas-brosur.html
Turkey reveals stand-off missile, bunker buster
Turkish Air Force (TurAF) has revealed two indigenously developed missile systems during the 100th year celebrations at the Cigli airbase in Turkey’s western province of Izmir, TR Defence sources reported on Saturday. Celebrations consisted of public shows by the world’s leading air acrobatics teams, including the USAF Thunderbirds and Turkey’s own Turkish Stars, as well as various other events both on the ground and in the air.
Developed by TUBITAK-SAGE as a result of an ambitious project started in 2006, Turkey’s first indigenous stand-off missile is designed for destroying both fixed and large moving targets at a range of over 180 kilometers. Currently referred to by the TurAF as SOM, it can be used as a precision strike weapon against both land or sea targets. TUBITAK-SAGE officials who spoke to TR Defence at the Cigli airshow said that the initial demonstartion flights of the prototypes were completed successfully at undisclosed locations and the delivery of a first batch of missiles to TurAF would take place by the end of 2011 following more vigorous live firing tests scheduled for the rest of the year.
SOM missile uses GPS (Global Positioning System) as its primary mode of guidance complemented by an advanced intertial navigation system and a radar-based terrain contour matching system, dubbed TERCOM, allowing the missile to ‘hug’ the terrain during its flight as to avoid detection by radar. SOM also features improved geometry and aerodynamics over similar missile systems, as well as lightweight composite components that minimize the radar cross-section of the missile and turning it stealth. A terminal stage infrared imager recognizes the individual target by matching its signature with a pre-loaded database of similar targets and allows for precision homing and strike.
SOM can currently be installed and used aboard TurAF F-4 Phantom and F-16 aircraft.
“Certification work is in progress to enable the missile for use aboard the F-35,” a TUBITAK-SAGE official told TR Defence on condition of anonymity. Turkey plans to procure an initial batch of 120 F-35 planes to replace its aging fleet of F-4 Phantoms and the older F-16 Block 30s.
Bunker Penetrating Munition
TUBITAK-SAGE also unveiled its latest high-precision ’bunker buster’ bomb at the airshow in Izmir, dubbed NEB (Nufuz Edici Bomba) or Penetrating Bomb.
NEB is a 870 kg bomb system that consists of two warheads placed in a tandem configuration. First warhead is a tip-mounted shaped charge that creates a critical shockwave and intense heat upon impact. This allows the second warhead to penetrate through a reinforced concrete structure and explode on the inside. Second warhead is a larger explosive package housed in a thicker, slimmer steel-alloy casing that is designed to go through the walls of the bunker as it’s weaked by the shock and heat of the first first warhead’s impact. Wired with a proximity fuze to detonate approximately one second after the first warhead, the second warhead delivers a large and extremely lethal explosion to destroy the enemy bunker from inside out.
NEB is laser guided and can be dropped from all TurAF combat aircraft with target designators.
http://www.trdefence.com/2011/06/04/turkey-reveals-stand-off-missile-bunker-buster/
how many patience do you have? because we will have to wait more…
Not much left you know 😡 Than its no meaning to ask how long will it take to fly!!!
If the last news that we got is correct and it flies succesfully, please fresh T-50-2 pictures tmorrow…:rolleyes:
you expect Sukhoi employees to discuss specific problems regarding delays with T-50-2? me not
four more (if we tend to believe Pogosyan)
but T-50-3 will not fly this yearof course not / obviously not
Thanks for your precious answers flateric, hope we see the program speeds up in the nearest time…:)
The first MiG-29K naval aircraft to go to the army in 2012
Naval aviation is expecting to get the first batch of new carrier based MiG-29K in 2012, said Commander Naval Air Force Navy, Hero of Russia, Major-General Igor Kozhin.
“The first four cars (MiG-29K) may have to appear in 2012, but for this to happen, until mid-August, the Department contracted with the weapons industry for the construction and purchase of these aircraft,” – said Kozhin.
According to him, the entire Naval Aviation is planning to purchase more than 20 MiG-29K (KUB).
“Thus, in the future naval aviation of the Russian Navy will use the Su-33 Su-25 and MiG-29K” – the commander said.
If the contract is not concluded within a month, the best time for the new aircraft will be able to take in the combat duty Marine air only in 2013.
“Terms and contracting cycles of aircraft production are such that everything has to be done in advance” – the commander said, recalling that Russia’s industry now serves a contract to supply MiG-29K fighters to India for basing the aircraft carrier “Vikramaditya” (formerly “Admiral Gorshkov”).
Seems that you not tracking news about test flight program at LII and still think that T-50 fly forth and back straight&level over airfield.
Maybe it has great aerodynamics but what about electronics, weapons and engines? And there are many unreturned questions about the situation at T-50-2? Wonder any update (or reliable info) about how many prototypes will be joined to the flight test program? We know at the Su-35 development program there were two prototypes with one lost! Then if the T-50 flight test program is going very well then is it enough one prototype for getting all the flight parameters at such a program? Then the last question is the program going according the schedule?
what is going on with T-50-2?
just wait and see………….
Probably avionics or engine works than…
In my opinion they don’t have an engine problem, because they don’t risk it!
The question is are they adding some new components of the avionics suite or is there a problem? Maybe solving some problems can be easier around to the factory…
What about T-50-2 ?
Because of its latest “ultra powerful” engines it suddenly disappears so no pictures taken at LII yet 😀
Umm..?
This meaning the Su-35S ’02’ has joined the state trial at Akhtubinsk airbase?Edit: Medal, Thats ‘old news’:)
I think its a detailed news of an fresh event 😉
But it should be hard to start the serial production of the Su-35S without the serial “117S” engines :rolleyes:
Su-35s flew from Komsomolsk-on-Amur to Akhtubinsk
Head sample of a new multipurpose fighter Su-35s, built Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association of “dry” under contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia arrived in the State Flight Test Center in the Ministry of Defense Akhtubinsk.
Flights from Komsomolsk-on-Amur in Akhtubinsk completed test pilot Colonel Alexei Pestrikov glycerol. In the first instance Akhtubinsk Su-35s will soon begin to fly on the program state joint tests.
The contract for the development and delivery of the Russian Air Force 48 Su-35s in 2015 was signed between the company “Sukhoi” and the Russian Defense Ministry on MAKS-2009 in August 2009, the head assembly in this series aircraft (Su-35S-1) ended on KnAAPO this spring. First flight from the factory airfield completed May 3 test pilot “Sukhoi” Honored Test Pilot of the Russian Federation Sergey Bogdan. That’s it February 19, 2008 took off first flight model of Su-35 (№ 901), and on 2 October of that year – and the second prototype machine, the Su-35-2 (№ 902). By the way, on May 26 this year, Presidential Decree Sergei Bogdan was awarded the title Hero of Russia.
As reported after the first flight of Su-35S-1 press-service of company “Sukhoi”, by the time the stage was successfully completed preliminary tests of the Su-35, at which have been fully confirmed by the established technical requirements of stability and controllability characteristics, the parameters of the power plant and the main characteristics of The onboard equipment. These tests were conducted on two prototype versions of the export of aircraft. These have now been joined by the first machine for a Russian customer.
Routine tests of the Su-35s-1 at the airport KnAAPO, which included seven flights were successfully completed by mid-May, after which the aircraft began to prepare for the transfer of the Defense Ministry of Russia for participation in the program GSI. At the same time the plane was in the color blue-gray camouflage and got side number 01 with the words “Russian Air Force. In the long journey to Akhtubinsk Colonel Pestrikov started from Komsomolsk-on-Amur on 27 May. Stopover for refueling and rest was held in Chelyabinsk.The next day, May 28, the car arrived at the airfield glycerol.
Here, the plane will be presented to the state joint tests, the results of the first phase of which will be subject to the prior opinion on the compliance with the essential requirements the customer and its ability to mass production for delivery to the Air Force combat units of Russia.It is expected that the ICG will be attended by a few Su-35s, currently collected on KnAAPO.
According to official reports of “dry”, the most important features of the Su-35 is qualitatively distinguish it from other aircraft of the Su-27 are entirely new set of avionics based on digital information management systems and advanced radar station “Irbis” with a phased antenna lattice design NIIP them.Tikhomirov, with a unique range detection of air targets and the increased number of simultaneously tracked and engaged targets (support 30 and eight attack air targets, escort and attack two of four ground targets). The fighter used new, more powerful engines of the “117C” development “Saturn” with thrust vector control. Su-35 will be equipped with a wide nomenclature of modern and future weapons of all classes.
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