Isn’t Black Pudding German? Or am I getting muddled up with Black Forest Gateaux?
Pikelets however are I believe Scottish – and damn fine things they are – when hot and freshly laid
Yes something else – steak and kidney pud
And I think you should go out of your way to find some good fish – going near any coastal bits?
Mushy peas very dubious, but you have to do these things (when in Rome …)
Having toured Pommyland on an occasion or two and having a good friend who’s a restaurateur from that fine land, may I make a few suggestions?
– that strange green muck made of squashed peas
– bangers and mash
– “rost bif” as I believe the Frogs call it
– numerous curries of course but you’ve already got that sorted
– kippers and haddock and assorted other cold water creatures
– nothing Italian, it really doesn’t transplant well
– lots and lots of pints
Enjoy your voyage Bird
yes! 😀
Clearly a man of few words and great works. 😉 Looking forward to seeing one of these.
Me, my wife, our familes…are thanking God right now.
Your God is the one true God, known by many names throughout the world? The one who intervenes on all sides of every conflict?
Do I know who I am? Think I do. Do you know who I am? Don’t think so. Does it matter who we are? Not really. Does it matter that I think that I see another Vietnam being forged in Iraq? Hmm.
Flood
Flood – I enjoy our repartee elsewhere, on this one we are inseparable – I think there will be an inglorious retreat – Gnome
Reservations about the source aside, that seems likely. Bomber Command (nighttime) APs were usually large visible things.
My head hurts – isn’t a Gannet that other large contra-rotating thing?
How about a thread (realign this one or start again) title “Books offered or wanted” or similar. There could be a lot of contributors.
For my part, I’d like …
an original 1950’s hardback “The first and the last” by Galland
and “Bomber Command War Diaries” by Middlebrook/Everitt
preferably Aust or NZ located (o/a postage)
Any starters?
:rolleyes: EDIT 3/11 – clearly not – consider the suggestion canned for the time being 😉
This thread’s off to a good start I see
Had a mini once, it was fundamentally fun but mechanically dubious. Then a Daimler Double 6. A great distance car, but cost HUGE money in failures of every conceivable part – particularly electrics.
I point the accusing finger at Lucas.
That website I mentioned belongs to Tony Wood. But for some reason it doesn’t seem to be working right now, perhaps if you try again later or maybe he’s moved.
Another good site is the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board
http://p069.ezboard.com/bluftwaffeexperten71774
Good luck
Very very nice and I assume all taken from the tail turret. That’s a ride I’d like to take.
Apologies for the lack of factual comment at this time (Monday morning, at work) but there is a web-site out there with all the various claims etc. made by the various German fighter units, by front, by year. I have the link on my home PC and will post it this evening.
As to whether that illuminates the issue of claims vs fact I do not know – except to say that BoB was an “away” fight whereas all homeland defence claims would be easy to verify (o/a smoldering wreckage lying about the place). Eastern front of course would have fluctuated between “home and away”.
Another factor to consider is that German pilots didn’t have the, shall we say, comfort of a tour type arrangement. They fought until they died, were captured or the war ended. Hence the large scores (and immense combat experience) racked up by some.
Moggy – this from the RAF’s own site and unless I’m much mistaken taken (with permission) straight from Martin Middlebrook’s Bomber Command War Diaries
796 Lancasters and 9 Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate raids and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosive and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs. The first attack was carried out entirely by 5 Group, using their own low-level marking methods. A band of cloud still remained in the area and this raid, in which 244 Lancasters dropped more than 800 tons of bombs, was only moderately successful. The second raid, 3 hours later, was an all-Lancaster attack by aircraft of 1, 3, 6 and 8 Groups, with 8 Group providing standard Pathfinder marking. The weather was now clear and 529 Lancasters dropped more than 1,800 tons of bombs with great accuracy. Much has been written about the fearful effects of this raid. Suffice it to say here that a firestorm, similar to the one experienced in Hamburg in July 1943, was created and large areas of the city were burnt out. No one has ever been able to discover how many people died but it is accepted that the number was greater than the 40,000 who died in the Hamburg firestorm and the Dresden figure may have exceeded 50,000.
Bomber Command casualties were 6 Lancasters lost, with 2 more crashed in France and 1 in England.
311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden the next day, with the railway yards as their aiming point. Part of the American Mustang-fighter escort was ordered to strafe traffic on the roads around Dresden to increase the chaos. The Americans bombed Dresden again on the 15th and on 2nd March but it is generally accepted that it was the R.A.F. night raid, which caused the most serious damage.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/dresden.html
Note the USAAF aiming point = railway yards. Doesn’t mean RAF wasn’t but open to conjecture.