RE: National Music

NIET IK WAS ZESTIEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, Geforce, i really hate you for this. Dammit… You know, with a few friends of mine i have this very nice game of sending each other sms’es with lyrics of songs just to get them in the other guy’s head. Of course it’s more fun to terrorise your colleagues at work by humming a certain song during the morning, and in the afternoon find out that everyone was humming that.

On a sidenote: we’re going to ibiza…

Sorry i forgot about the Vengaboys, i already banned them from my head. Actually saw them live once… the dark girl is all hips with nothing to compensate on her upper body, in case anyone cares. The other girl is nice though.

Je bent een klungel in de jungle als je niets van dieren…

RE: National Music

>The only two songs which ever made it to be international
>hits.

What about Rocco Granata? He scored pretty well, and i honestly don’t know Lena (sounds terrible IMHO). Other bands you are forgetting are 2Unlimited (okay, the front-people were Dutch but it was a Belgian producers duo), Front242 (yeah!), Sandra Kim (of course!), Jacques Brel… There are definately more (no, not K3 nor the M Kids)

>In fact, technotronic was the pioneer of a new
>generation of music, the house, which started in Belgium.

Tend to disagree. House began in Detroit, the Belgians only made it commercial (and not with Technotronic, but with the how-can-we-forget-them-no-matter-how-much-we’d-love-to Confetti’s!)

>The late 80’s, technotronic also invented the smiley (:-))
>which then, was a very popular sign.

Actually, the smiley was dug up again, it was also very populair in the late 1970s. It was of course invented by Forrest Gump (who actually is a prototype-Belgian 😀 )

But, to follow your nice example here are a few of the reasons why the Dutch should be hated worldwide:

– Pops Abrahams and the Smurfs (Waar komen jullie toch vandaan…)
– George Baker Selection (Little Green Bag, Una Paloma Blanca)
– Shocking Blue (Venus)
– Golden Earring (Radar Love, Twilight Zone…)
– Gerard Joling (very populair in Thailand for some reason)
– De Electronica’s (de Vogeltjesdans/Bird Dance, for this i think we honestly deserve the big one)

Dammit, Geforce, now all these songs are echoing through my head…
they’re in my head
THEY ARE IN MY HEAD
IN MY HEAD!
😉

RE: Alexander The Great

I think it’s really tasteful. Mount Rushmore is of course absolutely beautiful (any news on the plans of carving Reagan next to it?), the Soviets carved a nice Lenin in the mountains on the Crimea, and it took the Albanians seven flights of napalm-dropping J-6es to finally scorch the mountains in which they carved out the name of Enver Hoxha in 10-meter high characters…

And while we’re at it, i think the Western coastline of Turkey should be altered to give it the shape of Atatürk, a giant statue of Mao Zedong should be placed on top of the Mount Everest, and the ice on the South Pole should be painted with massive amounts of black dye to spell ‘Margaret Thatcher’, big enough to make it readable from a 6000km orbit.

Want more? What about adding red dye to the water in the Three Gorges Dam in China to symbolise the victory of Maoism over nature? Painting the Saudi Desert green for it’s the color of Islam?

Yeah, it’s a good idea. Be creative with nature, enhance it where possible 😛

RE: Have any of you met another forum member?

As stated above: i’ve met Ference and Frank in real life (both are absolutely gorgeous 😀 ), and i also had a conversation through telephone with Tom from ACIG (occasionally also present at AFM).

But i have little doubt i have seen more of you, and probably will see more of you guys, at airshows, spotter’s days, conventions and an occasional prison cell }>

RE: Iraqi Invitation

Scooter,

>So, let me get this straight. It is ok for SH to murder
>hundred of thousands of people as long as other leaders do
>it? I can’t believe you….

It is not OK for Saddam to murder hundreds of thousands of people, but it’s horribly hypocritical of the US to make this a ground for war against Iraq. If that is the case, the US should be fighting in many other nations. And if that’s the case, the US should wonder what kind of ‘freedom-loving’ leaders it has installed in the past in nations like Chili, Indonesia, Costa Rica…

>Many of you on the forum are talking down
>America. If, you don’t agree with a American policy fine.
>Express your views and we would be happy to debate you on
>any issue. If, we believe your views to be just.

Can i interpret this as a summary of the US stance on the rest of the world? “We’re happy to debate with you as long as you agree with us. If not, screw you since you’re a do-nothing coward with no understanding of the concept of good and evil.”

>When
>was the last time you had a defense briefing? How about the
>last time you took a tour of the Middle East?

Three years ago, thank you. Last time i spoke with a native Iraqi is just over a year ago, last time i spoke with an Afghani is only a few weeks back, and last week i spoke for the last time with an American (outside the scope of this forum). If you’re suggesting ignorance on my behalf because of my opinion against an unprovoked attack on Iraq by the US: i’m sorry, i can’t really say i’m ignorant.

>Sounds like
>many of you here should look alittle inward! Many other
>people and countries agree with US policy yet, I don’t see
>you or your friends attacking them????

Which country agrees with Bush’s warmongering rants against Iraq? As far i know, the number of countries which agree can be counted with the fingers growing out of my knee.

>A couple more points
>I would like to throw in. First the Falklands the US gave
>the UK much support during the War. (i.e. inteligence,
>Weapons, etc.) Just as a younger brother doesn’t want his
>older brother to fight his battles nor did the UK want the
>US to fight there war with Argentina. The UK has a first
>rate military and was more than capable of handling the
>situation. To say any different is a insult to that fine
>country! (and mine)

Wrong. The US remained strictly neutral, as the fascist Galtieri-government was strongly backed by the US. In fact, there was quite a bit debate in the US if the Argentinian claim and invasion had to be allowed, it was only Thatcher’s immediate and fierce response what kept the Reagan administration of supporting the Argentinians…

>Secondly, I would like to comment about
>another members remarks about the US entering WWII. As with
>many of these issue they are more compicated than some
>members would like us to believe. First look at America in
>1938-1941! The US just got out of a great depression were
>many lost everything they had.

Remember that the same, if not worse, was also the case in Europe. While Europe prepared for war with Hitler in the late 1930s, Time Magazine voted him ‘Man of the Year 1937’, FYI… Just like Saddam Hussein was on the CIA payroll until the late 1980s and just like Noriega was. I would support any reliable attempt at making Iraq a democratic, free, independent nation. However, that is not something i think the US is willing to do.

>Remember the the US was suppling
>large amounts of military aid.

Hardly prior to the summer of 1941, when the Lend Lease Act was finally signed. The real support only came after Pearl Harbour. The support Britain got before, was mostly Canadian.

>Maybe you should take a History class now and
>then………you mite be surprised what you learn?

History class? Okay, then let’s see how often an American intervention or invasion led to a democracy where there was none before? There are two of these: Japan and Germany.
And how many times did American intervention lead to dictatorship, opression and killings of civilians? Let’s see… Costa Rica (United Fruit), Chili (Pinochet), Iran (reinstating the Shah), South Korea (Park), Indonesia ($uharto), Congo-Zaire (Mobutu) are the ones i can think of now.
And how many times did massive opression, disregard of human rights and a massive military NOT lead to an American intervention without secondary but more realistic goals?

Just think about it Scooter, just think about it… As a Dutchman i am very grateful for what the US did for my country in WW2 (although we were mostly liberated by Canadians). But i would sound a lot different if i were Chilean, Indonesian or Costa Rican, let alone a poor Saudi, Pakistani or Afghan bum without a finger to scratch my ass while all i see is American money being wasted in my country not benefitting me, and implying my own culture is second-rate only. Just think.

RE: Mystery Spanish Jet

>Arthur, that’s interesting about the Marbore. I didn’t know
>the J-69 was a licensed produced engine. I suppose I
>should’ve picked up on it because the power ratings are very
>close and because of the small size.

Actually, i never knew it until i was at an airshow where the Asas de Portugal (when they still existed… must be more than ten years ago now) flew with their T-37Cs, and were followed by a Belgian AF CM170. It was exactly the same tweeting, whistling sound, which is particularly annoying when the aircraft are taxiing (there is absolutely no malicious roar in the Marbore/J69, unlike other heavier whistling engines like the J79 or R27). I have never seen, let alone heard a Saeta 🙁 (make that a YET as far as i’m concerned) but perhaps you can ask if it’s going to fly anytime. I believe you mentioned having seen Tweets fly before, so you can compare the noise.

The abroad-design of the engine figures really, since a lot of the early jet engines built in the US were of foreign design (mostly British, but in the Marbore’s case French). IIRC, the last non-American ‘fast-jet’ engine was the TF41 for the A-7D/E (C too? To lazy to check) which was actually a RR Spey168.

The Big Answer..

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And the fossils were placed there by Slartibartfast, just like he made the prize-winning fjords in Norway.

All we’re here on earth for is to find the ultimate question, guided by the wonderful intellect of mice!

RE: The Big Question……..

Weisse aus Juterbog – R. petraeum.
Origin Juterbog (D), 1890s. Bush slow growing, upright, sunburns easily. Not productive, few berries on short strigs, not adapted to California.

Juterbog? Is this some sneaky attempt to turn this perfectly useless thread into an aviation-related piece of literature?

Don’t mind the raisins in a cake, with or without the legs. They add some variety to the substance, and possibly leave some parts (their jaws?) between your teeth so you can pick for at least an hour.