Also on this chart a 2k pounder isnt listed for the internal bay.
I thought the bay was rated for 2k!? Note I’m talking about a LGB and not a JDAM

What issues? Most of them don’t even apply to the F-35 as it’s got a different configuration.

I meant difficulties as far as composites, and being able to resist sea conditions.
My questions where answered so thanks.
On another note would the design have worked if they used Rudder-vators of some kind? and do you still believe that this could have been a ground based attack bomber if someone would have figured out the composites?

It seems like most of the issues where related to carrier ops. I’m also surprised there isn’t a Chinese or Russian copy cat since it would be better for land based strike.

I disagree, I think its various companies trying to blur the line as a marketing ploy, LOOK:

Boeing’s 5th gen design

Again Internal bays + sensors + LO coatings and shaping.

Northrop Grumman

Sukhoi

Heck even the Japanese prototype would have followed basic design rules for 5th generation fighters.

There clearly is a distinction

LOL even Iran gets it

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/04/spotted-irans-stealth-fighter.html

jessmo24,

i think the UK navy should have carriers with the f35 flying off the deck. i think the typhoon should be as advanced as possible in RAF hands (and am reassured that less numbers is not going to mean less advanced).

I think the UK are looking at the F35 as working in synergy with typhoon and UCAVs over the next 20-30 years. In that case, I’m not at all bothered by argentine t50s and the like.

I suppose i’m suggesting that the lines between “5th and 4th” generation are not that clear, and that the main difference between the F35 and Typhoon is that the F35 is a truly stealthy aircraft design, whereas the typhoon was developed to take advantage of certain areas of “stealth”.

Ill put it liek this

1st generation: Jet fighter Jet engines, guns, cannons.
2nd generation: Missiles, super sonic speed.
3rd generation: Early radar, variable geometry, guided missiles more advanced.
4th generation: Lifting bodies, Look down Doppler radar, advanced missiles.
4.5 generation: Advanced avionics, Tv nozzles minimum LO coatings, Aesa radars HOBs
5th generation: Conformal radars, Advanced AESA, internal carriage, extreme LO

So basically IMO to say you don’t need LO coatings is like saying you don’t need a radar. Its like saying you don’t need F-15 and typhoon because you have F-4 phantoms. The F-4 has a radar and can reach mach. why not throw AMRAAMs on it? I don’t you think you see the technological leap in the stealth. I don’t think you realize how difficult it is to build an aircraft that Not only is LO but that can manage emissions like the F-35 and f-22.
I would caution many nations, to not discount the leap in tech from 4.5 gen to 5th.

But the F-35 will have meteor +dircm

July 28, 2010 (by MSgt. Russell P. Petcoff) – Air Force officials announced July 28 its proposal for basing 59 F-35 Lightning IIs at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla.

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An F-35 Lightning II aircraft flies over Eglin AFB on April 23rd, 2009. The aircraft is the first of its type to visit the base, which will be the future home of the Joint Strike Fighter training facility.
The draft supplemental environmental impact statement, which Air Force officials plan to release in September, includes the preferred alternative of basing the 59 F-35 aircraft at Eglin AFB. Flight operations will also be conducted at Duke and Choctaw Auxiliary fields.

“The Air Force has completed its initial analysis of a full range of alternatives and determined that basing 59 F-35s at Eglin main base is the preferred alternative,” said Kathleen Ferguson, the Air Force deputy assistant secretary for installations.

“This is not a final basing decision; it is the alternative we believe will fulfil our mission responsibilities while considering economic, environmental and technical factors,” Ms. Ferguson said. “The community will be invited to comment on the alternatives presented in the SEIS.”

This decision, approved by Air Force Secretary Michael Donley and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz, supports the recommendation of the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure Commission to establish the F-35 Initial Joint Training Center at the base located on the far western end of the Florida panhandle.

“A significant amount of analysis has taken place over the course of the last 18 months and will continue through the completion of the SEIS,” Ms. Ferguson said. “Our goal has been to ensure that Eglin can support the BRAC-directed F-35 training mission to the greatest extent possible with a minimal amount of negative impact to existing missions, the environment and the surrounding communities,” she added.

The decision to limit the number of F-35s to 59 was based on airspace limitations highlighted in the modelling efforts of the Gulf Region Airspace Strategic Initiative, Ms. Ferguson said. The GRASI modelling indicates Eglin-managed mission airspace couldn’t accommodate aircraft above that number.

“However, once GRASI is completed and recommendations are implemented there is potential to increase airspace capacity in the future,” Ms. Ferguson said.

Air Force officials will conduct half of the flight operations from Duke and Choctaw fields.

This will minimize the effect on other missions on Eglin Reservation while also taking advantage of the Initial Joint Training Site, Ms. Ferguson said.

“This alternative minimizes the impact on the Air Force Special Operations Command mission, 7th Special Forces Group and preserves the critical test and training missions,” Ms. Ferguson said.

“Further, this alternative minimizes operations, to the maximum extent practicable, to reduce noise impacts on the surrounding communities,” Ms. Ferguson said.

The record of decision is anticipated to be announced spring 2011 following the completion of the final SEIS, Ms. Ferguson said.

I think your either totally delusional or really havnt grasped the
Concept of surprise. The fact that stealth has been around 20+ years
Now, is combat proven, an sought for, but still doubted
As an effective concept amuses me.