I was wondering if any of the Avro Shackleton preservation society have any news on the situation regarding this airframe at Long Marston… The Cala sign is now up as around 3000 homes are going to be built on the site shortly.
…Some searching says a few months ago it was off to a new home. It would be a real shame if it ends up being scrapped
The owner is aware of the development plans for the area and WR985 won’t be scrapped. Last we spoke he was still intending to move her and I’ve no doubt it will happen its just a matter of when! Me and a few others from the Coventry team will be lending a hand should it still be required.
Regards
Rich
We’re planning on keeping up the progress through next year, so keep watching! I think I can speak for all our little team when I say we’ve really got stuck into it and the pace of work is still increasing on WS788. We’re hoping next year is going to take her further down the path to a bright future!
What can be done to protect, those lovely new cowl rings from deteriorating?
Andy
They’re going to get a covering of an epoxy resin, then ceconite tape and dope to cover the wood. They’ll then get a couple of coats of black paint.
All being well they should last a good few years! Its been a learning experience for me, there are a couple of things I’d do differently if I had to make them again, but overall I’m chuffed to bits with the results so far.
Regards,
Rich
Bring it back why?
It looks very impressive in it’s current setting and is cared for by the local people.
If it is all brought back it will look like a pile of scrap and if there is no funding in place to display and re-assemble it on a framework (10,000 sq. ft. ideally indoors!) then it might be seen and appreciated by fewer people than enjoy it now.
The locals I’ve spoke to are worried that it isn’t being cared for and that since being on a prominent TV documentary has been raided pretty badly. Canopy frame, turret frame, and numerous other parts have gone with many ending up on ebay.
Given that theres no legal protection of NF920 a recovery of what is the last 617 Sqn Lancaster seems the sensible option to preserve all or some of what remains.
No progress, the waiting is mainly from the MOD side. I’m making some enquiries at the moment as several of us feel its time for another go at getting her home.
I’m sure that Rich would gladly welcome any donations / contributions towards this particular ‘Avro-sister’ project http://www.avroshackleton.co.uk/
Always! It all helps keep WR963 growling, allows us to help other Shackletons – and Lancasters – and generally keeps me off that armchair..
Guess you didn’t look too far into Elsie then Peter, or you would see just how wrong your comment about me being the armchair sort is.
Part of the problem? No. The problem is people running several parallel projects without talking to each other. Thats usually when the authorities put the barriers up and any progress stops.
I’ll still support KB882 before she moves, as I’m not willing to risk failure by sitting back and watching others do the heavy lifting.
Reevers engaged a Lawyer in Canada to obtain an opinion about what options were best for this aircraft’s future. Our intention was always to seek an outcome that would see the Lancaster remain in Canada, the second was to see it removed to another location within Canada and the third was to use a loop hole in Canadian Heritage Laws and purchase the Lancaster and bring it to Australia. Reevers has had a lot of support for our efforts and these can be found on our own FBP and even the FBP for KB882. We know Canadians are passionate about this Lancaster but action had to be taken and with the advice of several Canadian based advisors Reevers appeared on Canadian Radio and in numerous newspapers highlighting the issues of this Lancaster.
We had been advised that government promises had been made in the past to have work done to save this Lancaster but these proposals had come to nothing. We now hear that plans have been made to save this Lancaster by relocating it to an appropriate facility. For some people to say we had nothing to do with this latest development is just plain wrong and is a reflection upon the mindsets of like minded people who allowed KB882 to sit neglected for so long. International shaming has played a significant part in this latest announcement. Facts are facts, the many people involved know what the true story is and what part we played in this collective effort.
I just personally find it distasteful you were prepared to take the people it was gifted to to court in order to obtain yourself an aircraft – for whatever reason you choose to assign to it. It doesn’t seem right. I’ve seen the stuff on your Facebook page, and most of it was around how you weren’t going to help the Government Agencies involved, so your own interests seemed to be placed higher than the survival of the aircraft to the casual observer. To then come out and proclaim to be the one thats saved it when other museums were in the running and kept as other options last time is a sign of a bigger ego than necessary.
“Now let me just clarify all of this, Reevers will help any group if there are a genuine efforts to preserve a warbird.”
Edmonton tried, now Trenton have the green light. There’s a GoFundme campaign running again. I trust Reevers will be putting their money where their mouth is?
Anyway, here’s a little food for thought. There’s another significant Lancaster out there (or large remains of), that had an Australian pilot, and flew for a famous squadron. The recovery got bogged down in red tape, the kind of thing Reevers seems to have experience with. If you fancy a shot – go look for 617 Squadron’s NF920, “Easy Elsie”.
Regards,
Rich
Here we go with the arrogance of Reevers again. Is it forgotten that quickly and easily that a new home was sought for KB882 a couple of years ago which saw ownership transferred until the funding fell through? Or how about the ongoing efforts of the dedicated volunteers in years past trying to shore her up and keep the weather out?
Reevers did a lot of shouting that they had ‘found’ a Lanc (that wasn’t lost) and how they were going to get it to Australia by taking some half baked legal action against Canada to force the deal.
The people to applaud in this recent development are the guys at Trenton.
I wish I’d taken a picture, but it was an idea given to me by a chap on Facebook. After I’d done the rough shaping to get pretty close, I mounted the ring on a circular base that had a bolt through a bearing clamped into the workmate (basically like a rotating cake stand.) I could then clamp my sander to the workmate and rotate the ring past at a set height or position.
It worked, but the amount of sawdust had to be seen to be believed. With my car near to where I was working it looked like I’d driven through a sandstorm!
Meanwhile, some of the team haven’t been able to make it up to Elvington as often as planned (That would be me then.)
So, deciding homework was a good plan, I turned my attention to a couple of bits of very prominent woodwork – the engine nacelle intake rings. Armed with a bit of research into their construction, a good selection of decent quality ply, and a healthy dose of optimism I got stuck in. I know its ply rather than mahognay, but this is a first go and we can always upgrade later.
Here goes…
Marking out was started with a homebrew compass to get the correct radius for the inner and outer diamter of the rings, as measured from the aircraft itself. There’s going to be four layers of the ply, and each layer is in four pieces.

This is the first three layers roughly cut out and placed together. You quickly get the idea how it goes, and realise at this point there’s going to be a LOT of sawdust..

With all the layers together and glued, shaping can begin.


I used a fibreglass template that had been made at YAM some years ago to get the profile right, and also to test by fitting the newly made wooden ring into it to see if I was anywhere close. By the time I’d got to this point –

I was pretty confident I was doing the job right. Final shaping was achived by rotating the ring on a bearing and locating any high spots as it went around. Then it was into the car with it, and off to Elvington to test it up against the aeroplane itself.



I was barely a millimetre out around the top right quarter, the rest was spot on. To say I was happy would be an understatement! I put my success purely at the door of my milk chugging, take no messing about crew chief, Charlie. He tells Daddy how to fix stuff, and it seems to work.


So, back to the Meteor parts making facility on the Derbyshire border for finishing off the first ring, and manufacture of the second.

I’ve also retrieved the gunsight mounting tray, as the newly located gunsight needs something to sit on, and I can’t let blue_2 keep having all the fun fixing bits of jet. Next trip up will hopefully see me taking the pair of intake rings for covering and a last test fit with proper fixings, some new tube for aileron control rods, and a soldering iron to start doing some wiring jobs that WS788 so desperately needs.
Regards,
Rich
Whatever anyone wants to call YAM’s aircraft, she looks, feels and smells enough like a Halifax for me. I was fortunate enough to get on board last year.


Its an experience I’ll never forget.
Hi all,
Another month, another update on WR963. Although the weather at Coventry yesterday was absolutely Baltic cold, there were four of us braved it and got some work done.
First up was stopping the oil leak on No 1 engine. It was thought to be the timing plug, but turned out to be another plug further up on the engine block above it, with a perished gasket. Cleaning it up and refitting it cured the leak, and the cleaning up of the lower cowlings took longer than the repair itself!



Next up were some general airframe tasks, and as we were going around more stuff got noticed and added to the list. Things that could have been done over the last year or so but were missed, half done or ignored. Here’s a selection of what’s going to be keeping us busy over winter.
Blocked drainholes. Never a good thing, and probably the easiest bit of servicing to do. This very noticeable one on WR963’s front bomb bay bulkhead has blocked up and corroded pretty badly. We’ll be grinding it out and treating it as soon as possible.

DZUS fasteners on the cowlings. Several on No 4 engine have departed this life altogether, and I provided the tools to fit new ones shortly before my hiatus.

Over on No 2 engine, someone’s had a go at replacement but done it in a bit of a half arsed way. The new fastener is latched, but not rivetted on as the remains of the broken clip are still in place.


Last but not least, No 4 engine’s front spinner has picked up some new large dents, by way of a heavy blunt object, applied with violence. Likely done to try and ‘persuade’ the spinner to latch (rather than servicing the latches) its now rather deformed and tight so we’re going to replace it.


So, we decided a trip to the stores was in order, as we had a bit of a shopping list! We managed to find most of the items we need, as well as discovering the contents of some of the larger boxes were a brand new fuel tank. amd another tail fin/rudder bringing the total in stock to a pair. Someone was suggesting we start trying to put VP293 “Zebedee” back to a full Shackleton again, but I think we need a few more bits yet… We also managed to find a couple of surplus coolant radiators, so if any of our Gatwick friends are reading this you need to drop my Dad a message.
One of the boxes in the store had some interesting writing on it which gave us much amusement when we opened it. All the way from Avro, half way around the world, and back, never yet used.

I metion him in passing further up this post, and we’ve not been neglecting “Zebedee”, work has started again on more restoration for him. I got on board during a quiet moment and removed the Engineers panel blank, ready to get it cut for fitting some new switches and gauges. A nice find was in the cleaned up drawer below it, the master fuse list is still there.



Gareth Morgan is our glassfibre/composites expert, and he has taken on restoring the DF Loop fairing which came adrift earlier this year. The next few photos are his and show some of the work he’s started bringing it back to a good condition.



A lot of the new work starting on Zebedee is helped by the recent gift of an AP for the MR MK 1 Shackleton.


So there we are. We’re going to be sitting out November while we get a few more bits done, so the next run up will therefore be the dusk/early evening run for Timeline Events on 3rd December. The reason for deciding to get the work done now is that we want to start next year by taxying WR963 again. To make the taxying goal, there’s a few bits like the brake line which blew back in April (which showed that they all need going through) and a cunning plan in the works to keep the brake pressure up to implement.
One last thing.

WR963 now proudly wearing her poppy in Remembrance of the 156 aircrew lost in Shackleton aircraft.
Regards,
Rich
Hi all.
Just a quick drop in by me to remind you all about the 9th July approaching, whch marks 25 years since WR963 touched down at Coventry and entered preservation. She’s come a long way, and a short distance in that time. Usually you can find her providing shade for visitors and occasionally killing the grass in patches when the Griffons are run up just across from Hangar 7, Coventry.

Then occasionally she takes a stroll. Its only been once or twice a year so far, but the bar is being pushed. The 9th July will see another taxy run, and there’ll be more this coming year once this event is past. The intent is to try an bring her serviceability up to be capable and reliable enough to taxy once a month, something the team is pushing hard to achieve. I got lucky last year – I was Engineer for the taxy run in the Vulcan day. ONce everything was behaving I took a chance and got these two shots from the window, but the memory will last forever. A couple of chaps on the recent taxy run in April got even better footage… a chance that others can take advantage of too incoming months!


One thing that struck me when I visited recently was that although I’ve removed myself from duties with SPT; I still want to see WR963 fly and I still believe it can happen. I want to see this taxy past, become a turn onto a runway and off into the blue yonder. Hear the Griffon growl and watch ‘963 become a distant speck in the distance.

SPT have got a hell of a long way, and managed to secure funding for the NDT work, then when everything seemed to be a done deal they then had a new problem in having to find the money to rent hangar space after our long time friends at Air Atlantique decided to start ceasing activities. So far without resorting to endless chain e-mails or campaigns, they’ve already got over half way. Please support the SPT, as visitors are still welcome as ever. Go and watch a ground run up, or visit. Book a taxy ride when the spaces become available. Or, if you have a spare minute online and fancy donating to help go here: http://www.avroshackleton.co.uk/fundraising.html
A Shackleton will fly again, and your help would make it happen that bit faster.
Regards,
Rich
Foolish action to isolate everything at the cable breaks to get around the hatchet job on the centre section and use the AP to make sure we’re on the right lines and looking in the right places? Don’t think so. Foolish to check the state of the wiring and test continuity and insulation on the bits that looks suspect? Again, I don’t think so.
Your way isn’t the only way. Yes we are having fun and part of that is figuring just how much of a Meteor we have left, and what parts of it still work. As you know we don’t have the luxury of a roof over it, or the space and time to take it apart to the last nut and bolt. Part of bringing that limited small clunk of life back is to make people notice. To make us and our jet stand out and hopefully gain some donations through the museum sponsorship scheme. The grotty jobs will get done. But the plan is our plan, done our way.
Keep watching and you’ll see how it takes shape. Despite how it looks we’re not making this up as we go along.
Regards,
Rich