A good indication may be the radome which are composites.
They are composite, but not the CFRP as per panels on the craft. Older radomes were A/c standard fibreglass, they’ve moved on a bit now to PTFE composites…..but still not the structural strength of CFRP. And of course, Mr Radar can see through it!
Rickman, in Prince of Thieves produced several classics: –
“He steals from me, forcing me to hurt the public”
“I’m going to take his guts out with a spoon… because it’s dull, it’ll hurt more, you twit”
and the classic……………. “Cancel Christmas!”
Rickman, in Prince of Thieves produced several classics: –
“He steals from me, forcing me to hurt the public”
“I’m going to take his guts out with a spoon… because it’s dull, it’ll hurt more, you twit”
and the classic……………. “Cancel Christmas!”
No worse than the average pair of trainers?
Don’t wear them, they look pikey. I have some Asics Gel Kayano’s for running, which I no longer need as I’ve had an arthroscopy….but I won’t be wearing them as “Footwear”. They can stay in the kit bag for, I dunno, 10 years? As a bloke, it is impossible to throw away an asset which isn’t broken.:o
No worse than the average pair of trainers?
Don’t wear them, they look pikey. I have some Asics Gel Kayano’s for running, which I no longer need as I’ve had an arthroscopy….but I won’t be wearing them as “Footwear”. They can stay in the kit bag for, I dunno, 10 years? As a bloke, it is impossible to throw away an asset which isn’t broken.:o
The common discussion between the opposing sides, shared memories, shared photographs etc. are a sign that things have moved on.
Likewise when Spit/Hurri pilots meet Messerschmit pilots
I doubt if EVER our present serviceman will share such memories with the IED makers of Iraq/Afghan.
Nothing new there. AA fly A300s with which a bare metal finish also doesn’t work in theory, but looks identical to the rest of the fleet in practice 😉
The A300 is metal.
When they get the plastic, AA will have to paint it grey gloss. As with all CFRP panels next to ally parts now, and indeed on the AA 767 winglets on the picture above.
Maybe somebody will come up with a cheap silver paint, but they haven’t done for X years so why I doubt if they will bother now.
A tip for anyone who doesn’t want to slip over on icy pavements.
Invest in a cheap pair of golf shoes with metal spikes.
I used to run uphill in icy weather with them on.
NB: Can’t run much at all nowadays, tempus fugit etc., but no ice here worth mentioning, so no problems.
Still have the shoes though.
Also good for ripping up the floor in the supermarket.
Thing is, the styles of those things make you look a bit like the fat loud guy out of Caddyshack.
A tip for anyone who doesn’t want to slip over on icy pavements.
Invest in a cheap pair of golf shoes with metal spikes.
I used to run uphill in icy weather with them on.
NB: Can’t run much at all nowadays, tempus fugit etc., but no ice here worth mentioning, so no problems.
Still have the shoes though.
Also good for ripping up the floor in the supermarket.
Thing is, the styles of those things make you look a bit like the fat loud guy out of Caddyshack.
…..”leaves on the line ” problems .
Much as I detest defending the modern rail network, leaves on the line is a genuine problem.
(1) Trees now overhang the line. In days of steam they wouldn’t dare let the trees grow close, or the sparks from the funnel would set them alight.
(2) Steam trains had a little steam pipe to blast the line, it was just in front of the leading wheel. Modern trains don’t.
(3) Once leaves fall on the line, a train that passes crushes them with an immense force (Multi-tons per sq inch) and there is a chemical reaction, the crushed leaves eventually turn into a substance not unlike Teflon, and it’s as smooth as ice. Not good for a train which needs the friction of steel on steel.
…..”leaves on the line ” problems .
Much as I detest defending the modern rail network, leaves on the line is a genuine problem.
(1) Trees now overhang the line. In days of steam they wouldn’t dare let the trees grow close, or the sparks from the funnel would set them alight.
(2) Steam trains had a little steam pipe to blast the line, it was just in front of the leading wheel. Modern trains don’t.
(3) Once leaves fall on the line, a train that passes crushes them with an immense force (Multi-tons per sq inch) and there is a chemical reaction, the crushed leaves eventually turn into a substance not unlike Teflon, and it’s as smooth as ice. Not good for a train which needs the friction of steel on steel.
…say, a 747 or 380? As much as three or four more passengers?
Did AA have a penalty with corrosion?
Yes, probably 4 or 5 pax worth of weight on a 747. Maybe more, it was 3 or 4 on a DC10.
Corrosion, I think there is a fine lacquer on to prevent ally-scab.
The real penalty is the butt-ugliness. Unless all the skin panels come from the same batch from the metal mill, you get a different shade, as can quite clearly be seen on their a/c. Working the metal also produces different shades, a flat panel with a single curve (Fuselage) will not have the same shade as a double curve panel off the empennage/nose.
AA used to insist that the inlet L/edges are made from the same batch, especially when there are two lumps hanging off the same wing.
….Lets say they only get 20-25%, thats still a lot of fuel.
The fuel savings forecast were based on the outrageous weight savings they expected. A400 weight problems are now haunting the Dreamliner. CFRP is not the panacea the “Schemers” decided it would be. The “Designers” are now doing the work, and the scheme “Blue sky” thinkers are getting a bloody nose.
CFRP parts are harder to make, between 5 and 10 times the cost to make, harder to assemble with fasteners that are 20 times the price of ally ones. 9cents for a reaction rivet is replaced by a $1.80 fastener. And there are a lot of fasteners! For a weight saving of 10%ish. If the 787 is a dreamliner, the A350 is a Nightmareliner and the A400 is a soiled panty liner.
As for the partial wing box mentioned on the other (Closed) thread, that is totally normal. And taking it beyond maximum is totally normal. The tests will take it through several cycles of a flying envelope, take it to maximum design loads (Maximum feasible for all known conditions) and then they will take it until it breaks. If it breaks FAR past the max loads, then they’ve made it too strong and therefore too heavy.
When it breaks (I saw the A310 box go) the c-r-a-c-k is incredible!
More that $1M a piece? Boy, those things dont come cheap.
No, “The Deal” is worth $108M.
Within that deal there will be spares (Yes, they need spare LRU’s until used!), middle men to pay off, politicians to bung etc. etc. Mektron will be getting about $400-$500k each missile, and they’ll be making 30% (10% declared though!) on the deal. When it comes to the export, or indeed the internal sales of any military kit, you can never divide the deal price by the qty to arrive at a unit cost/price.
It’s also very difficult to calculate the unit price within civil sales, for much the same reason.
It’s odd yet beautiful to see aeroplane shots with a backdrop, instead of the usual clutter of fins, pylons, lamps etc.
Nice.